Who Killed Tony Gorman

2008-09-25T10:19:00.000+01:00

Mrs Gorman,
I really do appreciate how difficult this must be for you and your family. I make no appologies for it. My sole intenion for publishing this, isn't to give my version far from it. It is to preserve the evidence that was available to the Police at the time. More importantly it is for people to remember that a totally innocent young man was killed on the streets of King's Lynn and still nothing has been done about it. My "crusade for justice" didn't start 7 years ago as you suggested. It started immediately all charges were dropped. It was me that started a pettion in which 5000 signatures were collected calling on the then Home Secretary to invite another Police force or a Senior Judge to reinvestigate this crime. I refer you to my posts dated 20.04.2008. I had meetings with my M.P., attended local Police and community meetings where I raised the issue, wrote letters to the local and national press. Since then I have emailed lots of book publishers, film makers and documentary programmes with only one purpose in mind, to get justice for Tony and his family.
You asked did I know who killed Tony, all I have to go on is the statements taken by the Police. Like I've already said in the Blog when I was remanded to Norwich Prison along with Rod and Karl, I assumed Karl had done as I was not with him that night and I knew Rod and I hadn't done it. It was only after reading statements that I realised the Police had truly got things wrong about him too. To get a better understanding of events you really need to read as much as possible however hard it seems. I've published the statements as they were recorded. It's no good me picking this bit out or that bit as it wouldn't be the whole truth, it would be just my version. Good or bad it's in there.

The 3rd man

2008-09-22T08:08:00.002+01:00

Someone has emailed me today asking" who is the third attacker Daw refers to along with Withers and Allen? ".
I haven't put the 3rd persons name in because although the Police know the name they have not interviewed him since Daw's alegation. This person did make a statement to the Police in which he says he was at the club etc. He was for whatever reason not questioed further after Daws statement. It may come as a surprise to him if the Police ever decided to reinvestigate, so I wouldn't like to pre warn him.

2008-07-23T08:53:00.002+01:00

This is a comment I have recieved from someone claiming to be the Aunt of Tony.

Ia am an aunt by marriage to Anthony Gorman my husband being the brother of the father of Anthony I cannot understand this persuance of the so called truth of why Anthony died , have the widow, daughter, parents ever been considered in this cruel what would seem ego-trip of M England to get absolution/credible witnesses to his brand of truth, having read his history/resumee should I be scared of anything which I am not I am in the Autumn of my life hoping to gallop into the gales of my Winter, so please if you have credible knowledge of events do not play to anything else than the truth, an article in an obscure magazine was published many years ago pertaining to this subject is it the same source? you are right M England you are not a writer and Guy Ritchie will not be calling for a script being a writer myself I can bet on this...B Gorman.

Let me just reiterate, EVERYTHING I have posted are EXACT copies of statements that were taken by the Police. I have also included press cuttings that were in the local press. It is not my "brand of the truth". Tony's dad had the oppertunity to see all the statements I have now produced 17 years ago, he chose not to. I respected his decision. One reason to post it now is to preserve the truth. I would hardly call it an ego trip. It has no relation to any other article published in a magazine. Did I consider his family members before I decided to do this? I have considered them for 17 years, but this isn't about them this is about ME. I too have lived with this for 17 years.

Kenneth Baker let us down

2008-04-29T06:09:00.003+01:00

I was deeply dissapointed when Kenneth Baker turned down the request for some form of inquiry, be it another Police Force or a senior Judge. Tony Gorman was kicked to death on the streets of King's Lynn and the Police couldn't even manage to prosecute anyone for asaulting him let alone the murder, he at least deserved an inquiry. I've mentioned it before, but it is worthy of another mention especially as the Police and CPS kept banging on about not been able to determine the cause of Tony's death and hence been unable to prosecute anyone. G.B.H. at that time carried a maximum sentence of life in prison, that surely was an option to them had they infact got the right people. Kenneth Baker said it was for the Chief Constable to decide if he wanted the case looked at again, but he was hardly going to do that was he? I think the only person happier than the Chief Constable about Ken Bakers' decision was Gary Withers. He certainly hadn't been with Rod, Karl and me on the streets gathering a petition. I would like to say a big thank you to my M.P. Henry Bellingham for taking the time to listen to Rod, Karl and myself. He didn't shy away when 3 men accused of murder requested to see him. He's a very sincere person and will always get my vote, thanks Henry.

Baker says no

2008-04-26T09:04:00.000+01:00

Coroner's verdict

2008-04-26T09:01:00.000+01:00

Chief Constable of Norfolk P J Ryan letter

2008-04-25T07:57:00.004+01:00

It was easy for the Chief Constable to write a letter like this when the information I've made posted on this Blog wasn't available to the general public.
Mr Ryan can argue that the statement made at the King's Lynn Magistrates court "evidence flawed beyond repair" was a remark relating to a single witness. What I find very strange, I would even go as far as to say DISTURBING, Mr Ryan was "satisfied my officers carried out a wide ranging and detailed investigation into complex circumstances leaving no stone unturned". Mr Ryan all I can say is your easily satisfied. Why was it then that the Crown after such a "meticulous inquiry" could only produce one witness namely Gary Sewell, even though 8 other people witnessed the Murder. One of the reasons why I wanted another force to re-investigate this Murder was to see WHY there was inconsistencies in witness evidence.
"no stone unturned"? It's laughable, remember Gary Sewell was interviewed for 80 plus minutes over a 2 day period. I've stated it before but he was NEVER once asked if I was involved. Why was that stone left unturned Mr Ryan ? Another stone left unturned was the implication of Tony Crown by people who witnessed him assault Gorman outside the club, one even said he hit Gorman before I intervened inside the club. He was NEVER questioned about that. Although when he made his witness statement he was asked about a graze on his face, he said he did it "mucking about" with his mates earlier that night. His mates didn't mention it in their statements though. If you've read all the statements I've posted you can come to your own conclusion about "leaving no stone unturned". What a load of bollocks was my conclusion. I would have loved to have seen what conclusion another Police force would have come up with but that was not to be. One more thing, out of the 4 people charged with Tony Gormans Murder only 3 of us were asking for an independent inquiry. Gary Withers was not, draw you own conclusion about that.

MP in call for major inquiry

2008-04-25T07:49:00.003+01:00

Killing case inquiry call

2008-04-25T07:42:00.000+01:00

Solicitor calls for inquiry

2008-04-18T16:45:00.009+01:00

Let me tell you a little bit about the hate mail and how it came to stop. I received the first one soon after I got out of prison. It didn't take me long to realise there was a good chance the sender was a Policeman. He talked about the case but he mentions things that were never said in court. He uses words like "stir" meaning prison. In the letter my wife received he says "your hubby" he also says I was "high on drugs no doubt". Now unfortunately for DC 448 Williamson all the statements I received were in hand written form and it didn't take me long to match statements he had taken with that of the hate mail. Low and behold the only statement that ever mentioned ( mistakenly )the possibility that I may have been on drugs was taken by him. My solicitor and all the people I showed them too thought there was enough similarities to send them away for analysis. As part of my bail I had to travel into King's Lynn and sign at the Police station, one particular Saturday I asked to speak to DC Williamson, I told him I knew the letters were from him and he had better stop sending them. Guess what I didn't receive any more. I could of pursued it further when the analysis report came back but I didn't bother, partly because Williamson had been involved in interviewing Gorman's wife and parents and I could understand how emotionally involved he had become. I saw him the other day, he's now Inspector Williamson. Good for him.

Investigation must go on

2008-04-18T12:11:00.000+01:00

Victims parents criticise Police

2008-04-18T12:07:00.001+01:00

Freedom because of "flaws"in case

2008-04-18T09:41:00.000+01:00

Evidence "flawed beyond repair"

2008-04-18T09:35:00.000+01:00

Final Drama

2008-04-18T09:31:00.000+01:00

Old Style Committal

2008-04-18T09:15:00.000+01:00

The crown decided to put the evidence they had at what is called an old style committal. That is where they present their evidence in front of, in this case it was a stipendiary magistrate (a paid magistrate usually a lawyer ) to determine whether there is enough evidence for the case to continue. Although there were 187 witness statements taken, there were only 9 people who witnessed anything in relation to the assault on Tony Gorman. I have posted all their statements, but just to recap they were:- Gary Sewell, Jason Colman, Mark Branham, Caroline Scott, Clifford Ellis, Colin Lord, Terry Meierhofer, Gary Daw and Shelley Mitchelson.
The CPS took the peculiar decision to only present Gary Sewell’s evidence at the committal. Before I go on, just stop and think about that for a moment. A young man has been savagely beaten and although the Crown can no longer link that beating with his death, some people said “conveniently”. All the man hours that went into investigating (excuse me while I laugh ) this Murder, I still call it Murder, not like the CPS who in my opinion used the 2nd Pathologists report as a way out of the whole fucking mess they got themselves into. Anyway after all the so called hard work the police did, they offer Gary Sewell as their star witness. The one person they believe can get them a conviction. Forget Gary Daw and Shelley Mitchelson who both picked out Gary Withers on ID parades. Against that evidence they go after Karl instead.
The courts had set aside 5 days in which to hear the committal and the big day eventually arrives, after 3 hours the case collapses. I will post the press cuttings for you to read. You have to ask yourself something, did the CPS and the Police really expect or even want this case to get past the committal? I suggest they most definitely DID NOT! Why then would you only offer as a witness Gary Sewell, who on numerous occasions had said it was definitely not Karl? The crown knew full well what this bombshell would do; it would put to bed this whole damn mess. What’s nearly as bad is the general public in King’s Lynn were not particularly bothered. It was just fish and chip wrapping paper to them.

Diary of hunt for Chaple Street killers

2008-04-07T19:13:00.000+01:00

Court Clears 3

2008-04-07T18:57:00.000+01:00

Manslaughter Charges Dropped

2008-04-07T18:44:00.001+01:00

Re: The 2nd Pathologist report

2008-04-07T18:24:00.003+01:00

I have a couple of very important observations regarding this second report. Firstly his report is based on the WRONG information, given to him by the Police. He says Gorman received a broken nose due to an alleged headbutt outside the club. Without being examined at the nightclub how could anyone say he had a broken nose. A witness wrongly stated I head butted Gorman before I threw him out, but there was NOT one statement taken that said Gorman had any sign of an injury when he left the area of the Cellar Bar. Even Gary Sewell said he didn’t see any injuries on Gorman when they walked away together. I mentioned that because in a closed session of the court the CPS talked about dropping charges against Karl and withers and continuing the prosecution solely against me based on this report. I hope that sounds as unbelievable to you as it did to me, but it’s true. This again just shows a total disregard of the evidence. The prosecution ignored the witnesses that said Gorman was knocked down the stairs by Tony Crown and the beating Gorman received by the 3 unknowns. Again how were they ever going to prove Gorman received a broken nose inside the club? In any event they confounded everyone by changing tack again and only pursued Karl.
Something that was never followed up after this report and in my opinion should have been. The suggestion that Gorman may have inhaled drugs. Remember Gary Sewell in his interviews and his statement said how together him Gorman and Robert White had gone to Sewell’s house to pick up an inhaler Sewell had for his asthma. It isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that Gorman may have used it and had some form of reaction to it. If the Police had had their eye on the ball this might have sounded alarm bells to them. As with most things in this case if it didn’t point to me they ignored it.

2nd Pathologist report

2008-04-07T16:59:00.001+01:00

NAME:DAVID ANTHONY HARRIS0N
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: OVER 21 OCCUPATION: CONSULTANT PATHOLOGIST TO THE HOME OFFICE
Who states:- This statement consisting of pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: (SIGNED)
Autopsy Ref.No: H/0 4-91
Supplementary Report
Anthony GORMAN (Deceased)
In view of the importance of any head injury in supporting the cause of death given by me following the conclusion of the post mortem examination I carried out on Anthony GORMAN on the 2nd March 1991, the fixed intact brain was at my request examined by Dr.W.R. TIMPERLEY, Consultant Neuropathologist at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital,Sheffield. I examined the brain externally at the time of the original autopsy and although there was no obvious injury, the brain appeared swollen and was heavier than normal. My conclusion that these facts indicated significant brain damage has subsequently been shown to be incorrect. Dr. TIMPERLEY'S view, and one with which I now concur, is that any brain swelling was minimal and likely to have been due to congestion due to cardiac failure, i.e. the changes I noted in the brain at autopsy were the result of the cardiac failure and not its cause. Since the head injury had been excluded as a cause of death it became necessary to examine the heart and lungs in greater detail as the underlying cause of death now appeared to primarily concern one or all of these organs. Dr.N.R.B.GARY, Consultant Pathologist at Papworth Hospital in Cambridge is an acknowledged expert in cardiopulmonary pathology, and at my request kindly examined tissue removed at autopsy. Taking into consideration the alleged circumstances surrounding the deceased's death my original autopsy findings and the stated opinions of the two experts, Dr,W.R. TIMPERLEY and Dr.N.R.B. CAREY, who have assisted in this case I should like to make the following comments.
1. During an altercation outside the night club Mr.GORMAN suffered a broken nose it is alleged as a result of a headbutt. The fractured nasal bones and swelling of the nasal bridge are in my opinion consistent with a head butt injury.
2. Rupture of small blood vessels occurring at the time the nasal bones were fractured resulted in blood trickling down the back of the nose and into the trachea, bronchi and smaller airways. The blood is seen in the trachea and bronchi in the post mortem photographs and confirmed to be in the small airways on microscopical examination of lung tissue.
3. The effect of the blood in the airways would be to reduce the efficiency whereby the lungs oxygenate the blood. The blood would therefore contain less oxygen than normal i.e. there would be a state of hypoxia.
4. The blood reaching the heart and all other body organs would therefore supply less oxygen to them, resulting in tissue hypoxia.
5. During episodes of pain, shock and stress the adrenal glands produce increased amounts of adrenaline which increases the blood pressure and causes the heart to beat faster and to contract more forcibly.
6. In certain circumstances, the increased adrenaline produced can have an adverse affect on the heart muscle and instead of causing the heart to work more efficiently, can cause the heart muscle fibres to contract irregularly (fibrillate). The heart then ceases to function as an efficient pump and in the absence of medical attention, death in cardiac failure ensues. This is particularly likely to occur under hypoxic conditions.
7. Following the altercation, which resulted in a broken nose, the deceased then walked and ran some 300 yards before a second attack occcured. During this time it is likely he was in an anxious state, in considerable pain and stressing his cardiovascular system. All these factors would tend to result in increased adrenaline production.
8. The fractured nasal bones are the only significant injury. Other injuries are relatively minor and none of the other injuries which occurred outside the night club or, shortly afterwards, at the scene where the deceased's body was found are in my opinion directly responsible for death.
9. Minor microscopic changes in the lungs are consistent with previous inhalation of foreign material although there is no obvious connection between these changes and the cause of death.
10. .As stated by Dr.CAREY it is possible that the deceased died as a result of a cardiac arrhythmia due to a combination of fright with massive release of adrenaline from the supra-renal glands, combined with increased alcohol and possibly combined with one or more drugs. The lung changes suggest that the latter may have been inhaled.
11. The anoxia produced by inhalation of blood from the fractured nasal bones would have potenated (10) above or may, in the presence of alcohol have been sufficient to cause death.
12. In conclusion, although there are several possible mechanisms by which death may have been brought about, it is evident that there is no obvious unequivocal cause of death in this case. Certainley, there is no evidence of brain injury sufficient to have caused death.
13. My original cause of death should now be disregarded and cause of death unascertained substituted.
D A HARRIS0N SIGNED

Beggars Belief

2008-04-07T15:53:00.003+01:00

I have got a little ahead of myself because I want to post the 2nd pathologist report, I will do that next. let me explain what this letter meant. All charges relating to the death of Tony Gorman were been dropped against gary withers and myself. Karl would stand alone with a charge of violent dissorder against Gorman. Again how the CPS decide to bring what charge and against who is beyond me, I have a picture in my mind of charnley and francis flicking through a law book and one of them shouting stop and whatever the page is that's what charge they decide to act on. The next thing is how did they decide to only charge Karl? It was withers who was picked out twice on I.D. parades not Karl. Again they really havn't studied the evidence. It really was a farce, but guess what there's more to come.

Manslaughter charges set to be dropped

2008-04-07T12:48:00.001+01:00

Murder Charges Dropped

2008-04-06T19:21:00.001+01:00

I want to show you how the CPS decide to prosecute a case. The following information is obtained from the CPS's own website. I can't fathom the logic behind them reducing the charges from Murder to Manslaughter. Like I've said umpteens times before they should have accepted they had originally got it wrong and dropped the charges against Karl and me altogether.
Crown Prosecutors have to ask themselves the following two questions when they are making their charging decisions
Is there enough evidence against the defendant?
There must be enough evidence to provide a 'realistic prospect of conviction' against the defendant. A realistic prospect of conviction is an objective test. It means that a jury or bench of magistrates, properly directed according to the law, is more likely than not to convict the defendant of the alleged charge. This is a separate test from the one that the criminal courts must apply. A jury or magistrates' court should only convict the defendant if they are sure that he or she is guilty.
When deciding whether there is enough evidence to prosecute, Crown Prosecutors must consider whether the evidence can be used in court and is reliable. This means that they must assess the quality of the evidence from all witnesses before reaching a decision. A decision to drop a case does not mean that the prosecutor has decided to believe one witness and not believe another.
If there is not a realistic prospect of conviction, the case must not go ahead, no matter how important or serious it may be.
If there is a realistic prospect of conviction, the Crown Prosecutor will ask the next question.
Is it in the public interest for the CPS to bring the case to court?
The Decision To Prosecute
1. In most cases, Crown Prosecutors are responsible for deciding whether a person should be charged with a criminal offence, and if so, what that offence should be. Crown Prosecutors make these decisions in accordance with this Code and the Director's Guidance on Charging. In those cases where the police determine the charge, which are usually more minor and routine cases, they apply the same provisions.
2. Crown Prosecutors make charging decisions in accordance with the Full Code Test (see section 5 below), other than in those limited circumstances where the Threshold Test applies (see section 6 below).
3. The Threshold Test applies where the case is one in which it is proposed to keep the suspect in custody after charge, but the evidence required to apply the Full Code Test is not yet available.
4. Where a Crown Prosecutor makes a charging decision in accordance with the Threshold Test, the case must be reviewed in accordance with the Full Code Test as soon as reasonably practicable, taking into account the progress of the investigation.

5. The Full Code Test
1. The Full Code Test has two stages. The first stage is consideration of the evidence. If the case does not pass the evidential stage it must not go ahead no matter how important or serious it may be. If the case does pass the evidential stage, Crown Prosecutors must proceed to the second stage and decide if a prosecution is needed in the public interest. The evidential and public interest stages are explained below.
The Evidential Stage
2. Crown Prosecutors must be satisfied that there is enough evidence to provide a 'realistic prospect of conviction' against each defendant on each charge. They must consider what the defence case may be, and how that is likely to affect the prosecution case.
3. A realistic prospect of conviction is an objective test. It means that a jury or bench of magistrates or judge hearing a case alone, properly directed in accordance with the law, is more likely than not to convict the defendant of the charge alleged. This is a separate test from the one that the criminal courts themselves must apply. A court should only convict if satisfied so that it is sure of a defendant's guilt.
4. When deciding whether there is enough evidence to prosecute, Crown Prosecutors must consider whether the evidence can be used and is reliable. There will be many cases in which the evidence does not give any cause for concern. But there will also be cases in which the evidence may not be as strong as it first appears. Crown Prosecutors must ask themselves the following questions:
Can the evidence be used in court?
a. Is it likely that the evidence will be excluded by the court? There are certain legal rules which might mean that evidence which seems relevant cannot be given at a trial. For example, is it likely that the evidence will be excluded because of the way in which it was gathered? If so, is there enough other evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction?
Is the evidence reliable?
b. Is there evidence which might support or detract from the reliability of a confession? Is the reliability affected by factors such as the defendant's age, intelligence or level of understanding?
c. What explanation has the defendant given? Is a court likely to find it credible in the light of the evidence as a whole? Does it support an innocent explanation?
d. If the identity of the defendant is likely to be questioned, is the evidence about this strong enough?
e. Is the witness's background likely to weaken the prosecution case? For example, does the witness have any motive that may affect his or her attitude to the case, or a relevant previous conviction?
f. Are there concerns over the accuracy or credibility of a witness? Are these concerns based on evidence or simply information with nothing to support it? Is there further evidence which the police should be asked to seek out which may support or detract from the account of the witness?
5. Crown Prosecutors should not ignore evidence because they are not sure that it can be used or is reliable. But they should look closely at it when deciding if there is a realistic prospect of conviction.

I didn't put the Threshold test in because the decision to drop the Murder charge was in August which was plenty of time to gather evidence.

I will ask you to read the following again
03/09(6) Clifford Ellis 2nd Statement
03/16(6) More Gary Daw
03/23(12) The Forensics
Was there enough evidence to continue with a charge of Manslaughter?
How in a million years did they ever think they were going to get a conviction?
So when Mr francis says " This is the most complex matter I have ever had to deal with". The only reason it was so complexed was they were trying to fit the evidence they had to the wrong people. By that I mean Rod, Karl and me. From where I sit it looks a pretty good match to Withers and his mate.

Police face prosecution

2008-04-05T11:43:00.003+01:00

This is an extract from a statement made by Chief Inspector Kevin Coyle, number 2 in the Murder inquiry:-

12. The Cellar Bar belonged to a Mr Williamson who also owned a snooker club in King’s Lynn and was a local businessman. His son was arrested at the outset of this enquiry when he turned up when officers dealing with Teal running away,having been told by the staff of the incident at the Cellar Bar. He was arrested because we were not certain at the time if he was involved, but he was quickly released. Information we have suggests that because of the incident at the club there was money from Williamson floating around. The Gorman family spoke of this. There was, however, nothing to support it.
13. I believe that Moore had taken the job at the Cellar Bar I to make ends meet to pay his wife and children following the divorce, which indicates that there was not too much money about. However, later he got married with a honeymoon in Bermuda etc. which does not seem right.

I just thought I'd add that as I don't think Rod was aware they even questioned how he could afford a honeymoon.

Kevin Coyle is another person who should be ashamed of how this inquiry was handled. To think we're paying for his fucking pension. If you think this case is a one off, I will have to look up another Murder inquiry that the King's Lynn boys in blue fucked up a couple of years after this one. If my memory serves me correctly it was a man was found guilty of murdering his next door neighbour only to be freed on appeal after it transpires the prosecution failed to mention semen belonging to someone else was found on the womans body.

The iniquitous Mr charnley

2008-04-05T11:13:00.005+01:00

I've only put this in because I want to highlight Mr charnleys' character transformation. He commented it would be "iniquitous to differentiate between two co-accused". I had to look up the meaning of iniquitous which is:-

Main Entry: in·iq·ui·ty
Pronunciation: \-kwə-tē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural in·iq·ui·ties
Etymology: Middle English iniquite, from Anglo-French iniquité, from Latin iniquitat-, iniquitas, from iniquus uneven, from in- + aequus equal
Date: 14th century
1 : gross injustice : wickedness
2 : a wicked act or thing : sin

iniquitous Definition in·iqui·tous (i nik′wi təs)

adjective

showing iniquity; wicked; unjust

My point is, it wasn't iniquitous to allow Rod bail after 2 weeks while I stayed in prison for 3 months. After all he was my co-accused and alibi. charnley probably didn't think it was iniquitous to mislead the court for three weeks by referring to the statement of Jason Colman when he was fully aware that that statement had been retracted after 2 days. It would of hardly seemed iniquitous to charnley to oppose my bail by referring to death threats against Shelley Mitchelson and not even mention it against my 2 "co-accused" when they applied for bail.

New Twist

2008-04-05T08:47:00.003+01:00

I can't begin to imagine what the Gorman family was going through at this stage. I did try to make contact with Mr Gorman, Tony’s dad, but understandably he didn’t want to know. After all he’d been led to believe by the Police that I had committed the crime. When I was told the Murder charge was to be reduced to manslaughter, rather than being elated which you might expect, I was angry. Although I thought I was been set up for this Murder, I always knew they didn’t have anything on me. I was looking forward to my day in court so the truth could come out.
In the news cutting if you read the very last bit by Detective Superintendent Fraser, he says “At this stage we are not looking for anyone else”. He might well have said we’ve made a big balls up of this from start to finish. Let me just explain what they had at this stage:-
They had me of course, but everything I had told the Police checked out. I walked a different way from where the attack took place. Not one statement out of 187 witnesses said I left the club other than when I left with Hayley Garrigan. I had Hayley Garrigan's statement which confirmed the way we went, Rory Sandish, and Robert White (the other friend of Tony Gorman) confirmed speaking with me on the Market Place and both described which way I went and then you have Rod who said he followed me when I ran off after speaking to Robert White. I went on 8 I.D. parades and wasn’t picked out on any.
Karl had plenty of people who could account for his actions after leaving the club. Again out of the 187 witnesses who gave statements no one mentioned me and Karl been together that night. The only thing and I mean the only thing that linked us, was I told the Police Karl had come and told me about there being trouble outside. If I had failed to tell them that and just said I went outside because I heard there was some trouble going on, Karl Somerton would never have been brought into this, I strongly believe that. The Police were looking for a third person and poor old Karl got the short straw. I’m deeply sorry I ever mentioned him but when you’re arrested on suspicion of murder, I think telling the truth is the only way.
Then you have gary withers, did the Police just pick his name out of a hat. I don’t think so .In his original statement he said he left the club at 12.30 am some 50 minutes before the Murder took place took a walk across the Market Place with his friend howard allan to Norfolk Street, a journey that was timed by the Police to take 4 minutes. Jumped into a taxi and went home. His friend howard allan confirmed they left together etc. But hang on a minute the Manager of the snooker club says withers followed him into the snooker club when he was about to lock up about 1 o’clock. He remembers it very well because withers stuck his mouth under a beer tap and helped himself. There were other statements to say wither’s was at the Cellar bar when the trouble was happening outside. Obviously we have the taxi driver’s statement. We also have 2 witnesses who picked him out. We have the girl with the amazing gift of being able to guess what clothes withers had in his wardrobe.
So when Detective Superintendent Fraser says “we’re not looking for anyone else”, a lot of emotions run through me, most of them unprintable. Could he with all the information available to him, believe he had the right three. The man’s a fool if he thought that, he is a disgrace to the uniform.

RE: Howard Allans Interviews

2008-04-04T19:15:00.003+01:00

I will be posting Howard Allan's taped interviews after all. When I mentioned earlier that he doesn't say anything in the 81 minutes he was interviewed, I think by reading the actual interviews you begin to feel gravity of it. My feeling is if you've nothing to hide you should at least try to co-opperate. Howard Allan does the opposite, he doesn't try to help in ANY way. Another reason for posting them is it's a good way of preserving them. This is just another part of the story that has never been told.

The Keystone Cops, King's Lynn Division

2008-04-04T16:45:00.000+01:00

Much was made by the prosecution that Rod and I were “Bouncers”, as if that really made any difference. All it did was make a good story. I will post a statement from a senior Police officer that suggested that the owner of the night club was using his money to buy people’s silence. A very serious accusation to make and for the record, not only have I never met or even spoken to the owner, but the only one time I have spoken to his son since was 4 years ago some 13 years after the murder. That was a brief hello and no mention of what had happened to me. My opinion of him isn’t printable; I expect he like many others believed all the shit in the papers and kept his distance. The prick. If you haven’t realised already where this case went wrong, it was the Police FAILED to act on vital pieces of information. Let me give you some good examples of what the police did and try not to laugh as it’s deadly serious. Neil Williamson the manager and owners son was not at the club but had left early with his girlfriend. He was telephoned at home by a member of the bar staff to say there had been some trouble. He jumps in his car to return to the club and on his way back he sees me talking to a police officer, if you remember the Policeman came after me with Rod after I had run by Gorman. Anyway Neil Williamson then goes to the Cellar Bar and guess what? The Police turn up shortly after and arrest him on suspicion of murder. Now contrast that with Keith Jarvis the taxi driver who says he has just taken 2 lads home who were running away from the murder and very out of breath, what did they do absolutely fuck all. In all probability that might have been the one piece of evidence they needed to solve this case and they disregarded it.
So when I say “This appears to be the most incompetent police investigation since Inspector Clouseau retired from the Sûreté, the only way it could have been less effectively investigated would have been to have the Keystone Cops involved as well.” Can you see why?

The Taxi driver who picked up Withers and Allen

2008-04-04T08:12:00.001+01:00

NAME: KEITH JOHN
JARVIS
ADDRESS:
AG3 / DATE 0F BIRTH: 33 25121957
OCCUPATION: TAXI DRIVER
Who states: - This statement consisting of 5 pages, each signed
by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make
it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to
prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know
to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 040391
R J JARVIS (SIGNED)
Statement taken and signature witnessed by:
(Signed) C WILLIAMSON DC448
I am Keith John JARVIS and I live at the address stated overleaf, where I have lived for the last thirteen months with my wife, Bridgette JARVIS. Prior to this we lived at xxxxxxxxxxxxx Although I was born in King’s Lynn, and moved there thirteen months ago, I have spent most of my life in Dereham. I am a. self employed taxi driver and, at the moment, I drive a red VW Jetta motor car as a registered hackney carriage, number 15. It therefore has an illuminated "TAXI" sign on the roof and a "HIRE" sign inside the windscreen, on the passenger side. There is a CB aerial in the centre of the roof, which is quite tall and on a magnetic base, and also a small mobile telephone aerial at the back of the roof which is also on a magnetic base. The vehicle does not belong to me, but is hired, and I have been using it for the last eight months. I use no other vehicles for doing taxi work. As I am self-employed I do not work from any particular taxi company. I derive my fares from mainly taxi ranks, and also from people who hail me on the street, whilst some people phone me on my mobile phone, which is in the car. About 1.20 am on the morning of Saturday, 2nd March, 1991, I was stationary in the vehicle I have described above, parked in Norfolk Street, King's Lynn, directly outside the Health Food shop which is opposite QD, the discount shop. The vehicle was facing towards the High Street. It was very quiet, and by this I mean that there weren't many people about, and so I pulled away with the intention of looking for a fare. As I had just pulled away and was about to turn the corner into Chapel Street, but had not reached a point where I would have been able to look down Chapel Street, two men came running around the comer from Chapel Street and into Norfolk Street. I would describe the two men as follows. The first man was shorter than the other, probably about 5'10" and of slim build. He looked as if he hadn't had a shave for a couple of days, and therefore had a stubble beard in the style of George MICHAEL (the pop star.) He had short hair, which I think was light in colour. I think he was smartly dressed, wearing either a 'T' shirt or a normal shirt, and I think trousers as opposed to jeans. The shirt would have been open-necked as he wasn't wearing a tie. Although my description of his clothing is somewhat vague, I got the overall impression that he was tidy and well-groomed. The second man was taller than the- first, over 6'0" tall definitely, and was well built, and I mean muscular as opposed to being fat. He had short, dark hair, which was straight. I think the sides of his hair nay have just covered the tops of his ears, but I cannot be sure on that point. Again, he was also wearing either a 'T' shirt or ordinary shirt, and trousers. He was not wearing a jacket and neither was the first man. The shirt was light in colour, but I can't remember the colour of his trousers. He too was of a smart, well-groomed appearance and was clean shaven. Neither of the men were scruffy. The first man, the shorter of the two, waved me down by sticking one of his arms out to the side. I stopped the car and the shorter man opened the front passenger door and got into the front passenger seat whilst the other man opened the rear nearside door and got into the car and sat behind the front passenger seat. The shorter man, once in the car, asked me to take then to Gaywood. He did not give any address at that time. I pulled away and immediately into Chapel Street, having switched the taxi meter on, which switched off the "HIRE" light which had previously been illuminated. As I drove into Chapel Street I saw some people on the right hand side of the road, kneeling around someone lying on the pavement. His feet were on the pavement and his head was a little way into the road. I cannot be sure exactly whereabouts on Chapel Street this was, but it may have been in the region of the Lattice House, but on the opposite side of the road. There were no other people in Chapel Street, other than those around the person lying down, and there were no other vehicles in the street. There were, I think, three people around the person. Before I describe this further, I should say that when the two men got into the car, they were both very cut of breath, as if they had been running. I didn't ask them the reason, but just as I pulled away one of them, I think the man in the front, said they were out of breath because they had been jogging to get a taxi. Returning to the three people around the man lying on the pavement, I cannot remember much about them at all. I think one was a man in dark clothing, but I can't even remember what sex the other two were. I slowed down as I went past and saw that the man lying down had some blood on his forehead, and was wearing jeans. I think he either had mud or dust on his trouser legs. I think he was wearing a 'T' shirt, but I can't remember what colour. As I passed I looked at the clock in the car's dashboard and saw that the time was exactly 1.20 am. This clock is very accurate and is normally approximately one minute fast. One of the men in the car, I think the one in the front, said either, "He is pissed," or "He has been on the drink," or something like that. I drove past and turned right into Austin Street and carried on turning left into Littleport Street, which then becomes Gaywood Road. Both men were still puffing and panting, and nothing else was said until I had nearly reached the Woolpack in Gaywood Road. The man in the front of the car asked me which taxi firm I worked for. I explained to him that I didn't work for any firm; I just worked off the ranks. One of them then said, and I think it was the one in the back."Oh good." Nothing further was said until I reached the traffic lights at the top of Queen Mary Road. I asked the men whereabouts in Gaywood they wanted to go. One of them, I can't remember which, said, "Hulton Road." I therefore turned right into Queen Mary Road and then turned second right onto Hulton Road. I then asked them whereabouts on Hulton Road they wanted to go, and the man in the front indicated, "Just over there on the right hand side." There was a lay-by on the right, which had one of those yellow street lamp repair vehicles parked in it. I dropped them off there and the front passenger paid the fare, which I think was £2.00. Both men got out of the car and stood by the lamp post in the lay-by. I drove to the bottom of Hulton Road and turned the car round in the circular part at the bottom. I then drove straight past the two men, who were still standing there. As I was about to turn left into Queen Mary Road, I looked in my internal rear view mirror and saw that the two men were still standing there. I drove back into town and followed an ambulance. The ambulance turned right in Loke Road and I carried on into town. I returned to Chapel Street, where I had seen the man lying, and found the police and ambulance were already in attendance. I didn't get out of my car, but wound down the window and told the policeman that I had just taken two lads to Gaywood. He asked me whether they had blood on them, and I said I hadn't seen any. Where the two men had originally got into the car, at the top of Norfolk Street, the area is fairly well lit by both street lights and shop lights, although it was dark because it was night. I got a better look at the shorter man because he got into the front of the car, and it was him that did most of the talking through the journey.
K J JARVIS SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN
PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 040391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE: K J JARVIS
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: COLIN WILLIAMSON

Clutching at straws

2008-03-31T15:58:00.003+01:00

This case was now becoming a farce. By charging Gary Withers with Karl and me proved it. Another Police force should have been invited to look at the evidence again, something I had been asking for, for a while. There was never any evidence that linked Karl and me to Withers. I didn't even know the bloke. The phrase clutching at straws comes to mind.

Rods Charges Dropped

2008-03-31T15:50:00.000+01:00

Withers Faces Charge

2008-03-31T15:47:00.000+01:00

Murder case:new drama

2008-03-31T15:24:00.001+01:00

Howard Allen's Interviews Under Caution

2008-03-31T12:43:00.003+01:00

I could copy all of Howard Allen's taped interviews for you to read, but that would take a long time, as he was questioned for a total of 81 minutes. Or I could just type down what he told the Police under caution, now that won't take long at all. The only thing he had to tell them about his actions on the night of the Murder was " I have no comment to make ". That's right, for 81 minutes Howard Allen did not try to explain one single thing. He repeatedly said " no comment " or " I have no comment to make ". He exercised his right to say nothing, read in to that what you will. He was picked out an I.D. parade, but that was later retracted, he had used the three months since the Murder to grow his hair and I think I'm right in saying lightened it. Nice one Howard.

Let Down

2008-03-29T08:12:00.003Z

When I spoke earlier in the Blog about how The Police and C.P.S. had let Tony Gorman and his family down, by failing to investigate his Murder properly. I forgot to mention how they also failed Shelley Mitchelson. Here was a young girl who just happened to witness, possibly the worst thing imaginable. Having made her statement to the Police a day after the Murder, she is then asked to attend 2 I.D. parades three months later. She doesn't shy away from picking out who she thought was resposible for this horrific attack. Something many people would probably have done. Shelley Mitchelson along with her boyfriend Gary did more than anybody to help solve this Murder and they were both deeply let down.

The Blue and White Hooped Rugby Shirt

2008-03-29T07:24:00.004Z

I'm not going to say too much about the statement, I've already mentioned there was statements to contradict Wither's saying he left at 12.30am. What I do want to talk about is all the people that came forward on his behalf, to say they had never seen poor old Gary wearing a blue and white hooped rugby shirt, EVER. Withers himself in his interviews under caution said he had only ever wore it once when it was first bought, about a year earlier. So when mummy, mummies partner, Gary's girlfriend and about ten or so of his good old honest buddies came forward in May to say they hadn't seen him wearing it. That was meant to throw weight to his defence and contradict Shelley Mitchelson's evidence. What it actually did, if you think about it logically, it damn near made it impossible for Shelley Mitchelson to be wrong. Unless of course she has "Uri Gellar" type powers and could guess what Gary fucking Withers had in his wardrobe!! I'm going to repeat myself because I think it is SO IMPORTANT. Gary Withers in his Police interviews insisted several times that he had only ever wore his blue and white hooped rugby shirt once when it was new over a year prior to the Murder. When interviewed by the Police in May not one of Gary's friends said they had ever seen him wear it. So somebody please tell me how Shelley Mitchelson manages to describe him wearing it? Did she sneak into his house and hang it in his pissing wardrobe? Of course not. Did the Police and Crown Prosecution Service fail to see this logic? Of course they did they missed everything else for God's sake!!

Statement of Gary Withers

2008-03-29T07:22:00.002Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION

NAME: GARY JAMES WITHERS
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 22 13031968
OCCUPATION: BOOKBINDER
Who states: This statement consisting of 3 pages, each signed
by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief, and I make
it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to
prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know
to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 210291 G J WITHERS (SIGNED)
I am the above named person and I live at the address overleaf. In the incident I am about to describe I was wearing blue jeans, a beige sweatshirt with a roll neck collar and white trainers. On the evening of Friday 1st. March, 1991, 1 went for a drink with Carl GREEN of 15 Camfrey, Kings Lynn. I can only recall that he was wearing jeans. We went into Kings Lynn town centre somewhere between 8 o'clock and half past 8 that night. We went to the Malting’s, Paige Stair Lane, The Maydens Head, The Wenns, Chicago’s and the Lattice House, before returning to the Maydens Head. In there in on my second visit I met up with Howard ALLAN. About quarter to 11 I left the Maids with Howard and Carl, I can't remember who was there for sure except for Carl. When I got to the Cellar Bar I had to pay £1 admission. I do not know who I paid this too. This is only the third time I have been in the Cellar Bar since it has been open so I am not familiar with the doormen and I can't recall which of them were on the door when I went in. The was packed when I got in there. I want to the bar and got a drink. Carl was with me for about another twenty minutes. I don’t know what happened to him after that. I had spoken to Howard ALLAN in the Cellar Bar but only for .a short time. I left the Cellar Bar about half past 12. As I was leaving I saw Howard again and asked him how he was getting home and the two of us decided to share a taxi as we live quite near each other. As we left we passed some people still going in and there was a group of people at the top of the stairs. I don't know who they were. We walked diagonally across the Tuesday Market Place and down Surrey Street, between the two banks. Howard had a look in the window of what used to be Glebe Taxis in Chapel Street. He said there were alot of people in there, so we walked off towards Norfolk Street. We had just got on the corner of Norfolk Street and Chapel Street when an empty taxi came along. We flagged him down it was "Just the Job" taxis. As he didn't have a fare he took to Holten Road, which is where Howard lives and dropped us off. When he picked us up he drove along Chapel Street, past the Lattice House and then took the first right along Austin Street. He then drove us straight to Gaywood. I do not recall seeing any trouble at all during the time that I was in the Cellar Bar. At no time whilst I was in Chapel Street, either on foot or in the taxi did I see any sort or trouble. I must say that my recollections of that night are somewhat hampered in that I was drunk having had about twelve pints, of Guiness. The only person I can remember seeing in the Cellar Bar that I know was Emma the barmaid. I have just remember that as I was walking out of the Cellar Bar I saw the one doorman that I do know, standing at the door, it was Micky TEAL. At this time there was nothing unusual that I noticed about his appearance.
G J WITHERS SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 210391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE: G J WITHERS
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: DS BULL

RE: Even more Gary Daw

2008-03-28T11:07:00.002Z

I touched on it when I was referring to the Forensic evidence and I will post the statements to prove it. Police officers and Prosecutors for the Crown made statements eventually blaming witnesses for failing to provide enough evidence to continue with this case. Gary Daw did more than was reasonably expected of him, he actually handed the evidence to them on a plate. The Police and Prosecution on several occasions said the witnesses were afraid to name names. Gary Daw certainly did and what did they do about it? The usuall, fuck all. When all the shit about the actuall cause of Gorman's death starts to raise it's ugly head, they use that as an excuse to drop the case. Well Mr charnley and Mr francis (prosecutors) you shouldn't need me to tell you that a charge of G.B.H. at that time carried a maximum sentence of LIFE in prison. The very least the Gorman family deserved was to see somebody stand trial for assaulting their son and you couldn't even manage that. SHAME ON YOU,SHAME ON YOU ALL.

Even More Gary Daw

2008-03-28T11:06:00.000Z

STATEMENT OF WITNESS
CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 1967, S9, MCA 1980, S102
MC Rules 1981 r70_____________

Statement of: GARY DAW
Address:
Occupation: CARPENTER
Age: .....24

This statement (consisting of 7 pages signed by me) is
true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it
knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, I shall be
liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it
anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be
true.
Dated
Signed
Witnessed by
I wish to make this statement additional to the statement
that I made to the Police dated 3rd March 1991 and the
statement that I made to Messrs Hawkins, Solicitors, on the
24th April 1991.
In the last of those statements I said that those involved in the attack on Gorman were definitely not Somerton, Teal and Moore. I said that I would be able to recognise those involved again. I have now seen two of the men involved and I have made it my business to find out who they are. I am certain that the large man who came up last of the three is Gary Withers who lives in the Gaywood area of King's Lynn. I am certain that one of the first two attackers was a boy who I know to have the surname xxxxxxx and as I understand it is a fisherman who lives in North End. I have seen both of them in Public Houses in King's Lynn on several occasions recently and have asked people who they are. I am willing to attend an Identification Parade. Turning to Gary Withers and in turn talking about the third of the attackers, this was the big stocky man with black shortish hair. The man xxxxxxx who I saw involved in the assault is tall with black short hair and of medium build rather like my own. They are both in the age group of around 25. I initially thought that this boy xxxxxx first name was Andy, but I cannot be sure of that. I have not come forward before because I did not want to be the person to point the finger until I was sure and as time has gone by and I have seen them on several occasions have become certain that they are two of the attackers. It is for that reason that I came forward to Mr Britton's Office on the night of the 7th May and at his request have made a statement in the presence of Sergeant Tom Neill. Of these two, xxxxxx was actively involved in kicking and punching Gorman. Withers was the last there. I remember that he held Gorman around the neck area but by his clothing. I cannot be sure if he punched the man but he certainly did not kick him. The other main attacker was with xxxxxx. He was shorter than xxxxxxx with mousy hair. I can be sure that Gorman had been chased round by the second Ward Gethin Office opposite the Tudor Rose and into Chapel Street and had not run across the car park. The first two men were about 15 metres behind Gorman. He ran across towards the Council Offices. By this stage me and Shelley had just turned round by the Lattice House on the opposite side of the street. The third man was lagging behind them. They caught up with Gorman as he got across onto the pavement. I saw both of them hit him and he went down. I think both of them had punched him. Certainly one had. He fell to the ground. The third was about 10 metres behind the first two and as he joined up with them the first two were kicking Gorman on the ground. They were kicking him about the upper part of the body. They kicked him repeatedly. This was once he was on the floor. They were at this stage joined by the third person. All I saw him do was pick up Gorman by the scruff of the neck but by the clothing in that area and at that stage the first two had stopped kicking Gorman. I had been absolutely opposite the first two when they were kicking the man. The third had come jogging up behind them. I cannot say if the third person did or did not hit Gorman but he definitely did not kick him. That was the last I saw of these three men. Indeed having passed the first two as they were kicking the deceased I walked on with Shelley. I then obviously saw the third jogger run up to them which meant he went passed us. I then looked back only once or twice and then only briefly. We had got about 10 metres passed the first two when the third man caught them up. I glanced over my shoulder as we carried on walking and it is then that I saw him holding the man Gorman. We carried on walking and then I glanced back again and they were gone. There is no time in my mind in which the third man would have had an opportunity to do anything further to Gorman in between my looking the first time and looking back the second time to find that they had gone, but when I looked back the injured man was lying on his back, his body was over the pavement and his head on the curb. He feet were facing towards me. Then I refer back to my first statement and meeting Clifford Ellis. I cannot remember if the lights were on in Chapel Street when the assault was going on but I think they would have been and I certainly could see clearly. Thus I can describe the first two attackers as follows. As to the man xxxxxxx he was about 25 years of age. He was 6' or thereabouts, perhaps slightly taller. He was of slim to medium build (about my build). He had dark hair, it was black, it was cut short but not in any particular style. I cannot remember what he was wearing; it was his face that I was looking at. He looked clean shaven and there was no obvious beard or moustache. The second man with him was not so tall, somewhere between 5'8" and 5'10". He was of medium build but heavier than the first of the two. He had collar length short hair which was mousy brown. He was clean shaven and again I cannot remember what he was wearing. The third man, Gary Withers, was about 25 as were the other two. Again he was white. He was of stocky build and somewhere between 5'10" and 6' in height. He was more fat than stocky. He had black hair, it was cut shortish and again in no particular style and I cannot remember what he was wearing. At the Identification Parades that I attended I did not see any of these three on them. I went to three Identification Parades. On the first I recognised Carl Somerton on it. On the second I recognised Michael Teal, and on the third Rod Moore. I picked none of them out and could definitely say if I had been asked by the Police that it wasn't any of them involved. I can say this without any doubt at all. Since then I have on various occasions seen those who were involved about King's Lynn. I have made enquiries to find out their names. I am now sure that they were the three involved on that night. I have made enquiries and I now know that, as I have said already, one of them is one of the xxxxxxx brothers who live in North End, and I think he is a fisherman. This is the dark haired slim one I have described as kicking Gorman. The second one, I do not know his name, but I have seen him maybe twice with xxxxxxx since the incident. Another time I saw him in the Lattice House. On each occasion I have seen them in the pub. Since the incident he started growing a beard. I have asked people in the pubs who they are and that is how the name xxxxxxx came up. The one growing the beard I last saw eight or nine days ago. The third fattish one I have seen around and indeed before the incident. I did not then know what his name was. The last time I saw him was a couple of week ago in a pub in the Tuesday Market Place and I found out that his name was Gary Withers and that he lived in the Gaywood area. I found his name out by asking people in the pub in a quiet way. I recognised them first as being involved and then I made enquiries to find out who they were. I did not know any of them prior to the incident. I would recognise all three of them if I saw them again and I have no doubt the persons I now know to be Withers and xxxxxxx were involved that night and I am willing to attend any Identification Parades.

Signed Gary Daw

RE: The Forensic Evidence

2008-03-28T09:09:00.002Z

I was always addamant in my Police interviews that Forensic evidence would clear me of any involvement in the Murder of Tony Gorman and hey what do you know they did. The statement was a long time coming, I don't know how long these things usually take, but I would guess 3 1/2 months is not the norm. I mentioned earlier the excuses the C.P.S. came up with for not having them. they were as follows:- Mr MacKirdy was on a course, he was on compassionate leave or he was on holiday. To me they were just excuses. My worst nightmare was the filth were going to tamper with the evidence, after all, together with the C.P.S. they did other underhand things.
It's a long document to read so let me just briefly explain what it found.
My blood was found on both Sewell, Rod Moore and outside the Cellar Bar, but not on Gorman. Absolutely nothing linked me to Tony Gorman and nothing linked Tony Gorman to me. The patterned shoe mark found on his face and in the blood by his body couldn't have been done my my shoes as they didn't have any patterns on. They were infact plain leather "brogues" with a "metal seg" in the heel. The Police and C.P.S. fucked up and nobody else. I will post statements from senior officers who blamed the witnesses later so stay tuned.

The Forensics

2008-03-28T08:57:00.002Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: DUNCAN MACKIRDY
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: OVER 21
OCCUPATION: FORENSIC SCIENTIST
Who states: - This statement consisting of 20 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 200691
D MACKIRDY (SIGNED)
I am a Bachelor of Arts, Chartered Biologist and a member of the Institute of Biology.
Receipt of Items:-
On the 6th March 1991 one hundred and thirty items were received at the laboratory from Police Constable BANKART on behalf of the Norfolk Constabulary, 'D' Division. The following seventy eight items have been examined:

Anthony GORMAN
DAH/7 Right Shoe
DAH/8 Left Shoe
DAH/11 Belt
DAH/13 Jeans
DAH/15 Wrist-Watch
DAH/16 Red, white, blue top
DAH/21 Blood sample

KH/2 Blood swab (Footpath between deceased and wall)
KH/3 Control swab 20 (Chapel Street, King's Lynn)

Michael Andrew TEAL
MCD/1 Shirt
MCD/2 Trousers
MCD/3 Right shoe
MCD/4 Left shoe
MCD/11 Right sock
MCD/12 Left sock
LKA/1 Nail scrapings - right hand
LKA/2 Nail scrapings - left hand
LKA/5 Swab - palmar aspect of right wrist
LKA/6 Swab - right forearm
LKA/7 Swab - palmar aspect of left wrist
LKA/8 Swab - left forearm
LKA/9 Swab - left zygoma
LKA/10 Swab - chin
LKA/11 Blood sample

Rodney Alan MOORE
MCD/5 Shirt
MCD/6 Trousers
MCD/7 Left shoe
MCD/8 Right shoe
MCD/13 Left sock
MCD/14 Right sock
LKA/14 Nail scrapings - right hand
LKA/15 Nail scrapings - left hand
LKA/18 Swab - right thumb
LKA/19 Swab - right little finger
LKA/20 Swab - left palm
LKA/21 Swab - right ear
LKA/22 Swab - right temple)
LKA/23 Swab - right upper lip
LKA/24 Swab - left corner of mouth
LKA/25 Swab - hair line
LKA/26 Blood sample

Home of Karl Robin Brian SOMERTON
JD3B/1 Blue rugby shirt with white collar
JDB/2 Left brown lace-up shoe
JDB/3 Right brown lace-up)
JDB/4 Right brown lofa shoe
JDB/5 Left brown lofa shoe
JDB/6 Right black lace-up shoe
JDB/7 Left black lace-up shoe
JDB/8 Pair 'Z-Tribe' jeans
JDB/9 Light blue T-Shirt
JDB/10 'Best Direction' sweatshirt
JAL/1 Pair of jeans
SRB/1 Dark blue sweatshirt
SRB/2 Black sweatshirt
SRB/3 Dark blue wax jacket
LKA/1A Fingernail scrapings - right hand
LKA/2A Fingernail scrapings - left hand
LKA/5A Blood sample

Page Stair Lane King’s Lynn
RA/7 Blood swab 4
RA/13 Blood swab 7
RA/17 Blood swab 9
RA/21 Blood swab 11
RA/23 Blood swab 12

Footpath, Tuesday Market Place King’s Lynn
RA/27 Blood swab 14
RA/33 Blood swab 17
RA/37 Blood swab 19

Gary William SEWELL
RJW/2 Swab from below wound
RJW/3 Swab upper central chest
RJW/4 Swab - right ear
RJW/5 Swab - back right hand
RJW/6 Swab - back left hand
RJW/9 Blood sample
DSC/1 Shirt
DSC/2 Jeans
DSC/3 Left boot
DSC/4 Right boot

RJL/3 Photograph of mark on face (right side) Anthony GORMAN
RA/44 Video-body-area from Page Stair Lane to Chapel Street.
On the 11th March 1991 the following item was received at the laboratory from Police Constable BANKART:
JH/1 Paving slab - near gate of St Nicholas's Church, St Ann’s Street, King's Lynn.

Information received:-
During the evening of 1st March 1991, Anthony GORMAN (deceased) in company with Gary SEWELL visited a number of public houses in King's Lynn, eventually visiting the Cellar Bar in Page Stair Lane during the late evening.
Michael Andrew TEAL and Rodney Alan MOORE were employed amongst others as doormen at the Cellar Bar.
After an incident in the Cellar Bar in which a TV monitor was broken, one of the doorman got hold of Mr. GORMAN by the throat and pinned him up against a pillar. A number of glasses were smashed and Mr. GORMAN was subsequently ejected from the bar by the doorman. The doorman then returned to the bar.
At about closing time an incident occurred at the top of the steps of the Cellar Bar involving Mr. TEAL and Mr. SEWELL. Head injuries were sustained by both persons; Mr. TEAL was restrained by Mr. MOORE and others. Mr. SEWELL managed to get away.
A scuffle also occurred at the top of the steps involving Mr. GORMAN. After an argument with Mr. SOMERTON, Mr. GORMAN was seen to grab hold of another man. A few minutes later Mr. GORMAN was seen lying halfway down the steps.
Subsequent to the incidents at the Cellar Bar Mr. SEWELL went down Page Stair Lane towards the Tudor Rose Hotel. Mr. GORMAN joined Mr. SEWELL and stood talking outside Nos. 14/14A Tuesday Market Place. They were then approached by three men. Mr. GORMAN ran off down St Nicholas Street chased by three men who caught up with him outside the Tudor Rose Hotel. Mr. GORMAN was punched and again ran off with the three men in pursuit. The three men caught up with him in Chapel Street, where he either fell or was knocked down. Whilst lying on his back Mr. GORMAN was repeatedly kicked in the head by each of the three men. One of these also held GORMAN's head and punched him about the face. The three assailants then ran off.
Mr. SEWELL left the area and got a taxi to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. Another witness to the incident called an Ambulance.
Mr. TEAL and Mr. MOORE were observed approaching the scene of the incident from the general direction of Norfolk Street by Police Officers. Mr. TEAL passed a comment to the Police Officers and then ran off. He was later arrested in Hextable Road. Mr. MOORE walked past the scene and was picked up by the owner of the Cellar Bar in his vehicle. Mr. MOORE was then transported back to the Cellar Bar, where he was arrested.
Mr. SOMERTON was arrested later the same day.
A Post Mortem was carried out on Mr. GORMAN by Dr. HARRISON at the James Paget Hospital, Gorleston, where the cause of death was given as Pulmonary Oedema as the result of a severe beating. Mr. GORMAN had also sustained a broken nose.
None of the accused admit the offence.
Mr. TEAL has been charged with grievous bodily harm on Mr. SEWELL.
In addition to items RJL/3 and RA/44 I have also seen photographs of the body of Mr. GORMAN in situ at Chapel Street, King's Lynn.
I do not know whether Mr. MOORE or Mr. SOMERTON sustained any injuries relating to the incident at the Cellar Bar.
Purpose of laboratory examination:-
The laboratory examination is required to establish:
(1) Whether the clothing, footwear and swabs from the accused bear blood shed by Mr. GORMAN.
(2) Whether the upper clothing and swabs from Mr. TEAL bear blood shed by Mr. SEWELL.
(3) Whether the upper clothing and swabs from Mr. SEWELL bear blood shed by Mr. TEAL.
(4) Whether the clothing from Mr. GORMAN bears blood shed by Mr. TEAL.
(5) Whose blood was shed in Page Stair Lane, Tuesday Market Place and Chapel Street?
(6) Whether the marks on the face of Mr. GORMAN were made by footwear from the accused.
Examination of Items:-
My examination has been conducted with the aid of assistants.
Grouping Tests - blood samples and bloodstained items:-
The details of grouping tests performed in this case are given in toe following appendices:
Appendix A - Items relating to Anthony GORMAN.
Appendix B - Items relating to Michael Andrew TEAL.
Appendix C - Items relating to Gary William SEWELL.
Appendix D - Items relating to Rodney Alan MOORE.
Appendix E - Items relating to Karl Robin Brian SOMERTON.
Appendix F - Items relating to Page Stair Lane, Tuesday Market Place and Chapel Street.
Items from Anthony GORMAN (deceased):-
The jeans (DAH/13) and top (DAH/16) each bear widespread areas of bloodstaining. The right shoe (DAH/7) bears two small spot stains which have given positive reactions to a test indicating the presence of blood.
Grouping tests have been performed on a total of seven bloodstained areas from toe jeans and top. Nothing has been found from the results of these grouping tests which would demonstrate the presence of blood other than Mr. GORMAN's on these items.
Grouping tests on one area of bloodstaining from the jeans, have not worked.
There is insufficient staining on the right shoe for grouping tests to be performed or for further tests to confirm the presence of blood. No bloodstaining has been found on the following items:-
DAH/8 Left shoe
DAH/11 Belt :
DAH/15 Wrist-watch
Items from Michael Andrew TEAL:-
The shirt (MCD/1) bears extensive bloodstaining, mainly on the front and sleeves. Most of this blood is in the form of splashes, which are heaviest on the upper part of the front and on the forearm regions of both sleeves.
The trousers (MCD/2) bear smears of blood on the upper part of the front and on the linings inside both the right and left hip pockets. The pair of shoes (MCD/3 and MCD/4) bear scattered small spots of blood, mainly on the fronts of the uppers.
The swabs LKA/5 to LKA/10 each bear traces of staining which have given positive reactions to a test indicating the presence of blood.
Grouping tests have been performed on a total of eight bloodstained areas from the shirt, trousers and left shoe. Nothing has been found from the results of these grouping tests which would demonstrate the presence of blood other than Mr. TEAL’s on these items.
There is insufficient blood on the right shoe for grouping tests to be performed.
There is insufficient staining on the swabs LKA/5 to LKA/10 for grouping tests to be performed. The presence of human blood has been confirmed on the swab LKA/9 from the left zygoma. No further tests have been performed on the swabs LKA/5 to LKA/8 and LKA/10 to confirm the presence of blood.
No bloodstaining has been found on the following items:-
LKA/l Nail scrapings - right hand.
LKA/2 Nail scrapings - left hand.
MCD/11 Right sock.
MCD/12 Left sock.
Items from Gary William SEWELL:-
The shirt (DFC/l) bears extensive blood splashing, mainly on the upper parts of the front and sleeves. The jeans (DSC/2) bear scattered small blood splashes, mainly on the front, extending from the top to the bottom of the legs. The pair of boots (DSC/3and DSC/4) bear small spots of blood, mainly on the edges of the soles. Each of the swabs (RJN/2 to RJN/5) relating to the head, chest and hands bears bloodstaining.
Grouping tests have been performed on a total of four bloodstained areas from the shirt and jeans and on each of the five bloodstained swabs. (None of the bloodstained areas tested from the shirt and jeans belong to groups in common with the blood sample from Mr. SEWELL.
Some of these bloodstained areas belong to groups in common with the blood sample from Mr. TEAL. In my opinion these findings support the contention that Mr. SEWELL had been involved in an incident with Mr. TEAL when the latter was bleeding from a head injury.
In the presence of blood which could have been shed by Mr. TEAL, nothing has been found from the results of other grouping tests on these items of clothing which would demonstrate the presence of blood from Mr. GORMAN.
Grouping tests performed on blood from each of the swabs (RJW/2 to RJW/6) have not worked.
There is insufficient blood on the spots (DSC/3 and DSC/4) for grouping tests to be performed.
Items from Rodney Alan MOORE:-
The shirt (MCD/5) bears widespread bloodstaining, much of which is in the form of minute splashes. The trousers (MCD/6) bear occasional spots of blood, mainly on the upper part of the front. The shoes (MCD/7 and MCD/8) bear traces of bloodstaining on the fronts of the uppers.
The swabs (LKA/19, LKA/21 to LKA/25) and nail scrapings (LKA/15) from the left hand bear traces of staining which in each case have given positive reactions to a test indicating the presence of blood. The presence of human blood has been confirmed on the swabs (LKA/23 and LKA/24) respectively from the upper lip and corner of the mouth.
Grouping tests have been performed on a total of ten bloodstained areas from the shirt, trousers and pair of shoes and on the swabs from the lip and corner of the mouth.
Some of the blood from the clothing of Mr. MOORE belongs to groups in common with the blood sample from Mr. TEAL. In my opinion these findings are consistent with information that Mr. MOORE had intervened in an incident involving Mr. TEAL when the latter was bleeding.
One area of blood staining tested from the clothing of Mr. MOORE belongs to a group common with the blood samples from both Mr. SEWELL and Mr. MOORE. In my opinion this finding is consistent with information that
Mr. MOORE had intervened in an incident involving Mr. SEWELL when the latter was bleeding. However I have not excluded the possibility that the blood could have been shed by Mr. MOORE himself.
In the presence of blood which could have been shed by Mr. TEAL, Mr. SEWELL or Mr. MOORE, nothing has been found from the results of other grouping tests on bloodstaining from Mr. MOORE'S clothing or footwear which would demonstrate the presence of blood from Mr. GORMAN.
Grouping tests on bloodstaining from the right shoe and from the swabs of the upper lip and comer of the mouth have not worked.
There is insufficient staining on the swabs (LKA/19, LKA/21, LKA/22 and LKA/25) and on the nail scrapings (LKA/15) from the left hand for grouping tests to be performed. No further tests have been performed on these items to confirm the presence of blood.
No blood has been found on the following items:-
MCD/13 Left sock
MCD/14 Right sock
LKA/14 Nail scrapings - right hand
LKA/13 Swab - right thumb
LKA/20 Swab - left palm
Items from Karl Robin Brian SQMERTON:-
The shoes (JDB/2 and JDB/3) bear small splashes of human blood on the edges of the soles and traces of blood on the fronts of the uppers.
The jacket (SRB/3) bears staining on the inside edge of the left front which has given positive reactions to a test indicating the presence of blood.
There is insufficient staining on the shoes and jacket for grouping tests to be performed. No further tests have been performed on the staining from the jacket to confirm the presence of blood.
No blood has been found on the following items:-
JDB/1 Blue rugby shirt with white collar
JDB/4 Right brown lofa shoe
JDB/5 Left brown lofa shoe
JDB/6 Right black lace-up shoe
JDB/7 Left black lace-up shoe

JDB/3 Pair of 'Z-Tribe' jeans
JDB/9 Light blue T-shirt
JDB/10 'Best Direction' sweatshirt
JAL/1 Pair of jeans
SRB/1 Dark blue sweatshirt
SRB/2 Black sweatshirt
LKA/1A Fingernail scrapings - right hand
LKA/2A Fingernail scrapings - left hand
Swabs of blood from Page Stair Lane:-
The bloodstaining on swabs 4 (RA/7), 7 (RA/13) and 11 (RA/21) belong, to a blood group in common with the blood samples from Mr. TEAL and Mr. SOMERTON.
Grouping tests on the bloodstaining on swabs 9 (RA/17) and 12 (RA/23) have not worked.
Swabs of blood from Tuesday Market Place:-
The bloodstaining on swabs 14 (RA/27) and 19 (RA/37) belong to a combination of blood groups in common with the blood sample from Mr. SEWELL. ]
Swab of blood from Chapel Street:-
Grouping tests on bloodstaining on swab 20 (KH/2) have not worked.
Paving slab, near gate of St. Nicholas's Church, St Ann’s Street:-
No blood has been found on item JH/1.
Photograph of mark on face - Anthony GORMAN:-
The photograph (RJL/3) of Mr. GORMAN's face shows marks which could have been made by undersurface pattern elements of the soles of one or more items of footwear.
The following pairs of shoes have no undersurface pattern on the soles;
MCD/3 and MCD/4 Mr. TEAL
MCD/7 and MCD/8 Mr. MOORE
JDB/6 and JDB/7 Mr. SOMERTON
In my opinion it is unlikely that these shoes could have made the marks on Mr. GORMAN's face.
The following pairs of shoes or boots have undersurface patterns on the soles:
JDB/2 and JDB/3 Mr. SOMERTON
JDB/4 and JDB/5 Mr. SOMERTON
DSC/3 and DSC/4 Mr. SEWELL
In my opinion the marks on Mr. GORMAN's face are too indistinct for meaningful comparisons to be made with these items of footwear. I am therefore unable either to attribute the marks on Mr. GORMAN's face to particular items of footwear or to exclude them.
Video recording, area from Page Stair Lane to Chapel Street and the body of Mr. GORMAN:-
I have examined this recording for the purpose of establishing the extent and distribution of blood shed in the region of Mr. GORMAN's body.
I have also seen photographs of Mr. GORMAN's body in situ at Chapel Street.
My observations lead me to believe that most of the blood in the vicinity of Mr. GORMAN's body is likely to have been shed by him whilst he was lying on the ground after the assault had ceased. No significant amount of blood splashing is visible.
I have observed what appear to be partial footwear marks in blood on the pavement between the body and the wall and on the road adjacent to the body. These marks contains pattern elements which appear to be different from the undersurface patterns of the shoes (JDB/2 to JDB/5) from Mr. SOMERTON and the boots (D3C/3 and DSC/4) from Mr. SEWELL.
SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS:-
Nothing has been found to show the presence of blood, other than his own on the clothing from Mr. GORMAN.
Nothing has been found to show that marks on Mr. GORMAN's face and on the ground in Chapel Street, had been made by items of footwear relating to Mr. TEAL, Mr. SEWELL, Mr. MOORE or Mr. SOMERTON.
Nothing has been found to show that blood from Mr. GORMAN had been shed onto items relating to Mr. TEAL, Mr. SEWELL, Mr. MOORE or Mr. SOMERTON.
Nothing has been found to show the presence of blood other than his own on items from Mr. TEAL.
The clothing from Mr. SEWELL bears blood from another person. In my opinion the findings show that Mr. TEAL is the person most likely to have shed this blood.
The clothing from Mr. M00RE bears blood from more than one person.
In my opinion the findings show that Mr. TEAL is likely to have shed some of this blood. The findings also show that some of the blood from Mr. MOORE'S clothing could have been shed by Mr. SEWELL. However Mr. MOORE cannot be excluded as a possible source of this blood.
In my opinion the findings show that the samples of blood from Page
Stair Lane are most likely to have been shed by Mr. TEAL.
In my opinion the findings show that the samples of blood from
Tuesday Market Place are most likely to have been shed by Mr. SEWELL.
D MACKIRDY SIGNED

STATEMENT TAKEN PLACE:
TIME:
DATE: 200691

The Autopsy

2008-03-27T07:56:00.001Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: DAVID ANTHONY HARRISON
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: OVER 21
OCCUPATION: PATHOLOGIST
Who states: - This statement consisting of 6 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 050391 D A HARRISON (SIGNED)
Autopsy Ref. No: N/0 4-91
Name of Deceased: Anthony GORMAN d.o.b. 17.11.63
Home Address: 27 Browning Place, Kings Lynn.
Address of Scene: Chapel Street, Kings Lynn.
Last seen alive: 0115 hours 2.3.91
Found dead: 0124 hours 2.3.31
Certified dead: 0146 hours 2.3.91
Body identified to me by Police Constable BANKART at 1050 hours 2.3.91
Within the mortuary of the James Paget Hospital
Autopsy performed by Dr. D.A. HARRISON
Consultant Pathologist to the Home Office
Within the Mortuary of the James Paget Hospital, Lowestoft Road,
Gorleston, Great Yarmouth.
Autopsy Commenced: 1050 hours 2.3.31
Autopsy Completed: 1300 hours 2.3.91
Observers present at autopsy:-detective Chief Superintendent SMITH (officer in charge of case)
Detective Inspector ROWLANDS
Police Constable BANKART
Mr Paul STAFFORD
Mr Robert LLOYD
SUMMARY OF CIRCUMSTANCES
The deceased had been involved in an altercation at a nightclub in Kings Lynn and was ejected. Fighting continued outside the club where the deceased was thought to have fallen down a flight of steps. He then made off and was found dead some 300 metres from the scene of the altercation. A request was made by Detective Superintendent that I carry out an autopsy and the body was therefore transported to the James Paget Hospital Mortuary.
EXTERNAL EXAMINATION
The Body was that of a well-nourished adult Male 1.7m (5'71/2") in height and weighting 79kg (12.4st). Rigor mortis was present and generalised and hypostatic lividity was moderately well developed and limited to the posterior surface of the body. External injuries were present as follows:
HEAD & NECK:
Multiple irregular areas of abrasion over the front and right side of the forehead.
Right peri-orbital haemorrhage (black eye).
Swollen nose and bruising and abrasion of the bridge. Nasal bones obviously fractured.
Patterned abrasion right cheek over an area measuring 3 X 4. 5cm.
Linear abrasions upper lip on the right side, lips swollen and bruised.
Abrasion to left of chin.
Three separate abrasions to left cheek.
Abrasion 0.7 X O.6cm on the top of the head, to the left of the vertex.
Bruising to right side of neck.
Subconjunctival petachial haemorrhages right lower eyelid.
Tattoo on vertex of scalp.
CHEST & ABDOMEN:
Small abrasions related to the radial one third of the right clavicle.
Two vertical linear scratches of the right hypochondrium.
Tattoo around umbilicus.
ARMS & LEGS:
Tattoos right shoulder, upper and lower arms.
Tattoos left forearm.
Recent bruise left hip.
Old bruises back and front of left thigh.
Scar over right knee.
HANDS:
Right, diffuse bruising over the medial dorsum and over the dorsum of the proximal phalanges middle and ring fingers. Localised abrasions 0.3-0.4cm over dorsum of hand in line with middle finger and also over the dorsum of the middle phalanges of the middle and ring fingers.
Left, abrasion over dorsa distal interphalangeal joint of thumb and proximal interphalangeal joint of middle finger.
Abrasion medial edge of wrist.
2.2cm horizontal scar dorsum of hand medially.
Old scars over thumb proximally.
Abrasion over palmar surface of the thenar eminence.
INTERNAL EXAMINATION
HEAD
Scalp: Deep bruising to the left parietal scale near the vertex. Deep bruising of both temporal muscles.
Skull: Increased in thickness, 0.4cm in the mid-coronal plane, 1.4cm in the occipital region. No fractures.
Dural Sinuses, Meningss, C.S.F.Natural.
Brain: Weighed 1560 gram and appeared swollen. There was flattening of the gyri with injection of small cortical vessels. There was no obvious cortical contusion. Cerebral vasculature transparent. Brain fixed intact for later examination.
RESPIRATORY TRACT
Mouth:
Lips: Bruised and swollen.
Tongue: Bruised anteriorly at left lateral border.
Teeth: Own teeth present. Approximately two-thirds of the lower left lateral incisor broken and not present with body.
Airways: Contained aspirated fresh blood from fractured nasal bones.
Laryngeal Skeleton: Intact. No evidence of aspirated gastric contents. No bruising of deep neck structures. Pleural Cavities: Moist. No adhesions.
Lungs: Weighed right 730 gram, left 730 gram. Both were congested and oedematous. Scanty subpleural petechial haemorrhages noted.
CARDIO-VASCULAR SYSTEM
Pericardium: Natural.
Pericardial Cavity: There was a small pericardial effusion.
Heart: Normal in size and contour and weighed 360 gram. Valve circumferences were within normal limits. Valve cusps smooth and mobile.
Chordae tendineae not thickened. Nyocardium appeared healthy. Both coronary arteries were free from atheroma and their lumina widely patent.
Aorta: Natural.
Pulmonary Artery: Natural.
GASTRO-INTESTINAL TRACT
Oesophagus: Natural.
Stomach: Dilated by a recently ingested meal. Smell of alcoholic beverage noted.
Small & Large Intestines: Natural.
Peritoneal Cavity: Dry. No adhesions.
Hernial Orifices; Intact.
Liver: Weighed 1370 gram. Capsular and cut surfaces natural.
Gall Bladder: Thin-walled. No calculi. Bile ducts patent. Pancreas: Natural.
GENITO-URINARY SYSTEM
Kidneys: Both kidneys were normal in size and contour and weighed right 150 gram, left 165 gram. The capsules stripped easily revealing smooth external cortical surfaces. Cut surfaces natural.
Pelves, Ureters: Natural.
Bladder: Dilated by approximately 250ml of clear urine. Prostate: Natural.
External Genitalia: Natural.
OTHER ORGAN SYSTEMS
Endocrines: Pituitary Thyroid, adrenals, natural. LYMPHO-RETICULAR SYSTEM
Spleen: Weighed. 100 gram. Capsular and cut surfaces natural.
Lymph Nodes: No obvious lymphadenopathy.
SKELETAL SYSTEM
Fractured nasal bones. No other obvious skeletal abnormalities.
The following samples were taken by me and handed to Detective Inspector ROWLANDS:-
DAH 1 Body Bag.
DAH 2 Left foot bag.
DAH 3 Right foot bag.
DAH 4 Left hand bag.
DAH 5 Right hand bag.
DAH 6 Head bag.
DAH 7 Right shoe.
DAH 3 Left shoe.
DAH 9 Left sock.
DAH 10 Right sock.
DAH 11 Belt.
DAH 12 66 pence in coins right jeans pocket.
DAH 13 Jeans.
DAH 14 Pants.
DAH 15 Wristwatch left wrist.
DAH 16 Red, white and blue top.
DAH 17 Ear-ring left ear.
DAH 18 Head hair.
DAH 19 Pubic hair.
DAH 20 Urine.
DAH 21 Blood, grouping.
DAH 22 Blood, DNA.
DAH 23 Blood, drugs.
DAN 24 Blood, alcohol.
(Blood samples taken 1210 hours 2.3.91)
DAH 25 Spleen.
SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
A previously healthy adult male who had suffered a severe beating, mainly to the head. The patterned abrasion to the right side of the face is consistent with the deceased having been stamped on whilst on the ground. Defence injuries were minimal and many, or all of them, could have been caused by a fall down the steps outside the night-club.
The head injuries resulted in brain damage which produced pulmonary oedema and death.
CAUSE OF DEATH
1(a) Pulmonary oedema, secondary to
1(b) Head injuries sustained in a fight.
SIGNED: D.A. HARRISON BSc. MBChB. FRCPATH. DMJ (Path)
Consultant Pathologist to the Home Office
D A HARRISON SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 050391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE: D A HARRISON
OFFICERS SIGNATURE:

Gruesome Evidence

2008-03-25T19:13:00.002Z

Even with the two new arrests and the further statements of Clifford Ellis and Gary Daw saying they were certain it was not me or Karl, the prosecutor ian francis still applied to keep us in prison.
What's interesting to note is philip charnley is taken off the case. ian francis the prosecutor now handling the case follows charnley's footsteps, by again misleading the court whilst summarizing what happened. He said "Mr Gorman and Mr Sewell were noisy but only seemed to annoy Mr Teal. At one stage a television was knocked over. Mr Teal got hold of Mr Gorman, pinned him against a pillar......."
By Sewell's own admission I made a joke about the T.V. getting knocked off the wall, which incidently had nothing to do with me grabbing hold of Gorman. I should also add I have at least a dozen statements from different people who came into conflict that night with Gorman. Some from girls who say he pulled them about or tried to kiss them, lads who said he stood at the bottom of the stairs leading back from the toilets were he tried to frisk them for weapons. Robert White the other friend of Gorman, described Gorman as a "physco" to a lad Gorman had swore at. I could go on and on, so there was plenty of evidence to suggest that Gorman had "annoyed" alot of people that night. Again all this evidence was over looked because it had fuck all to do with me and didn't fit. francis couldn't even get it right about the man who tried to save Gorman's life, he wasn't a taxi driver at all. I know the lad in question he's a plumber by the name of Eamon. He deserves a thank you for his efforts.

Free At Last

2008-03-25T19:06:00.001Z

Two New Arrests

2008-03-25T19:02:00.001Z

Gary Withers and Howard Allen

2008-03-24T08:51:00.006Z

If you have read all the statements thus far you need congratulating, thank you for taking the time. Things started going pear shaped for the Police and C.P.S. here on in. You see they had concentrated all their efforts on trying to make a case against Rod, Karl and myself even when it was plain to see there wasn’t one. When one of the original witnesses then started to say he had seen the people who he believed to be responsible for Gorman’s Murder, while Karl and I were in prison things were going to prove difficult for them. Let me give you a brief outline of events before I start posting more statements. Gary Withers was the next person to be charged, let me explain how. Withers and Allen, like all good citizens came forward and made statements to the Police after the Murder was made public. Without stopping to look I think it was about 3 weeks after the event that they gave their statements. They stated they were at the club but left before any trouble. Withers said in his statement they left at 12.30 am about 50 minutes before the Murder happened. They walked across the Market Place a journey of about 400yards max, before getting a taxi on the corner of Norfolk St. That was about the some of their evidence. I might just add their taxi driver also made a statement a day after the Murder. In it he states 2 lads flagged him down in Norfolk Street at 01.19am, both were heavily out of breath, as he drove past the body of Gorman, Howard Allen made a comment about Gorman being pissed, before taking them home. The taxi driver, Mr Keith Jarvis was so concerned he actually drove back to the Murder scene and told the Police officers present about these two lads. But the officers weren't concerned. Aaaargh, excuse me but it does sometimes make me want to scream. I lok back at this case and think , if only and this is one of those times. Anyway Jarvis's and other evidence contradicted that of Withers and Allen who had claimed they had left at 12.30am before any trouble started at the club. In all probability the taxi drivers statement was singularly the most significant piece of evidence the King’s Lynn Police FAILED to follow up. Let me explain. If the Police were investigating this Murder with an open mind then perhaps 2 men who were picked up by a taxi 200 yards away from the scene of the crime both heavily out of breath they might have considered this a lead worth following. Not to the half wits leading this investigation, it was fucking missed. Apparently another lead not worth looking in to.So when Gary Daw actually sees the people he believes are responsible a couple of months later he finds out their names and makes another statement. The Police have to act now as this young man has in effect done the Police work for them. When they searched Gary Withers house after arresting him, low and behold they find a blue and white hooped Rugby shirt. Amazing!!
If the Police had acted properly during this inquiry and investigated this Murder in the way the Gorman family deserved then I believe Gary Withers and Howard Allen might rightly have stood trial for the Murder of Tony Gorman.

RE: More Gary Daw

2008-03-20T12:36:00.003Z

Although this statement was made on 24.4.91 to Karl's solicitor, in it Gary Daw says he told the 2 Police Officers before going on the I.D. Parades on the 5th March that he "was certain" Karl Sxxxxxxn was not one of those who took part in the assault on the deceased. He also states "They made it clear that they did not believe him". Can someone please explain to me how the police thought they could obtain a conviction in this case? This was pure and simplle MALICIOUS. I fully understood how I could initially have been thought of as a suspect, I ran past the body of Tony Gorman covered in blood and admitted assaulting his friend. All Karl SxxxxxxN did was admit talking to me in the club and that was enough to rope him in to a Murder inquiry. I hope your beginning to see how not only did the Police disregarded vital evidence from eye witnesses they also point blank refused to believe them. What kind of Police Officers have the King's Lynn community got serving them? While I'm about it I'll tell you who else let the town down. The local paper, The Lynn News. Yeah they were great at printing all the shit that was said in court, verbatim. It made great headlines, what they wasn't any good at was printing the truth. The big fucking headlines should have been all the wrong doing the Police did, the inempt handling of the inquiry, how they chose not to accept witness statements and how they didn't believe witnesses when they were told they had the wrong people etc. I've had all these statements 17 years and did the Lynn News ever once bother to do a follow up story when they was offered the evidence. Did they fuck. To all would be journalist's in the King's Lynn area don't ever be tempted to work for the Lynn News they wouldn't know what an investigative journalist was, unless of course you consider, writing about wheelie bins and car park charges investigative journalism.

More Gary Daw

2008-03-20T09:38:00.001Z

STATEMENT OF WITNESS
CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 1967, s9, MCA 1980, sl02. MC RULES 1981 r70

Statement of..................... GARY DAVID DAW
Address..................
Occupation.............. Carpenter
Age: 24
This statement (consisting of pages each signed by me) is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
Dated: 24.4.91
Signed.
Witnessed by:
I make this statement additional to my statement to the Police, dated the 3rd March 1991. I wish to preface my remarks by stating that I have attended three identification parades as a witness. At the first of those parades which was on the 5th March, I knew one of the persons on the parade which was Karl Somerton. Having made my statement on the 3rd March, 1991 but before going on the parade, I had been visited at my place of work by the same Police Officers who had taken the first statement from me. This was at High House, Terrington where I was working. They asked me if Knew Karl Somerton. I told them that yes I did know him. The reason that I knew him was that some years ago when I had gone to one of the local canning factories to do some work, I had met him there. Also I think he went to the same school as me and I certainly knew him by name. I told the Officers all this and particularly told them that I could be certain that he was not one of those who took part in the assault, on the deceased. They made it quite clear that they did not believe me. As the parade took place on the 5th March this must have been the day after I made my statement. Anyway, on the 5th March I was simply taken to the identification parade. On the first one I saw Karl Somerton on the line up. I was asked if any of the persons present was the one or one of those who I had seen kicking and punching the deceased, and I said no. I can go further and say that Karl Somerton definitely was not one of the three involved. Furthermore, I then went to another parade. I cannot be certain if it was the same day. On this parade, one of the persons on the line up was a Bouncer. At that time I did not know his name but I now know him to be Michael Teal. I immediately recognised him. I can say that he again was definitely not one of those involved in the assault. Finally, I then went to a third parade where I saw another person who I recognised as being a Bouncer. I should add that both Bouncers I am referring to have worked at the Cellar Bar where I go regularly and I have seen them in there. Again, I can definitely state that that person was not involved in the attack. As to those Bouncers, one of them I had seen actually working in the Cellar Bar on the night of the 1st March. I think that that is the man known as Michael Teal. I go to the Cellar Bar regularly and I had seen the other Bouncer working there as well. Since making those statements, I have obviously been out and about King's Lynn and I have not seen anybody who I could say was involved. Those involved in the assault do not stick in my mind as people that I have seen before. Turning to my statement I confirm otherwise that page 1 or thereof is accurate. As to page 2, when the man who I now know to be the deceased Gorman asked me if I knew somebody whose name he mentioned and kept repeating this; I have to say that the reason I walked away was because this man was being difficult. I felt that if I didn't walk away, he might go for me. Page 3 of my statement is accurate. As to page 4, I would like to add that the deceased Gorman (I now know that to be his name) was doing all the arguing when I saw him with a stocky built man with permed hair at the top of the stairs as I was leaving with Shelley Mitchelson. I can remember that the man with the permed hair was saying that he did not want any trouble. Gorman was being aggressive, they were not both arguing, it was Gorman who was doing the arguing and the other man was trying to calm things down. I have referred to hearing shouting as I walked away. I did not return to look at any incident. I had walked about half way from the exit of the Cellar Bar, to the mouth of Tuesday Market Place. When I looked over my shoulder, I could see abit of scuffling. I did not return to have a closer look. I had not noticed Karl Somerton at all that evening, the Club was quite busy and he could have been there, he just did not come to my attention. As to page 5 of my statement. I have described how Shelley Mitchelson and myself had gone passed the taxi office, having gone in there and been unsuccessful in getting an immediate taxi. We were therefore walking home along Chapel Street, opposite the Council offices when I saw the man running towards us being chased by others. I can say this. That man was the same man who I had seen causing the trouble earlier. I can be certain that he did not run out from the car park which is next to the Lattice House and extends back across towards the Tudor Rose Hotel. This is why I have said that I had the impression that he had run from the direction of St Nicholas Church. This is because if he had not run across the car park, and of that I am sure: then it follows that he could only have come from the direction of St Nicholas Church in which case he could have run down from the Tudor Rose direction and if he had just left the Club this would of course make sense. Those running after him were running towards me. It follows that I could probably recognise them again given the opportunity. I have described in my statement how I kept walking. I was tempted to shout out, "leave him alone" as I saw these three men assaulting the man on the ground outside the Council offices. However, I feared that if I did they might have a go at me. Obviously, I was concerned to keep Shelley moving. As we continued walking therefore, in the direction of St Nicholas Church I saw no other persons standing watching the assault. When I turned round again to look and saw the man now lying on the pavement the three men had gone. I have been thinking very hard about the description of these men. I would also like to add that I had drunk sparingly that evening and was not therefore in any way intoxicated. The last of the three men sticks most clearly in my mind. This is the one who was slightly behind the other two. He was of a plump build. He was in his mid-twenties, and between 5 feet 8 and 5 feet 10 inches in height. There was nothing outstanding about his clothing that sticks in my mind. He did not have blond hair, it was darkish. Also it was of medium length but it wasn't a smart cut. He was a white person. As to the other two who had been ahead of him and chasing the man Gorman, I can say the following. One was about 6 feet. He had dark hair which was cut fairly shortish. He was white and not wearing glasses (none of them were). He was of a slim build. Just as with the other two, he had no noticeable facial hair such as a moustache or a beard. The third one was smaller than the second one. I remember that he was of slim build and he had mousy blond medium length hair. I cannot say anything about their clothing; it was their faces that stuck in my mind. I can categorically say that I know Robert Mark Hills, otherwise known as Bobby Hills and he was definitely not one of these three. I also know his father and he was definitely not one of them either. I wish to conclude this statement by saying that I am positive that the Police have charged the wrong persons in this case. I have then described how I walked home. I have not seen Sewell’s statement I do not know this man. However, the route that he describes taking is the same route that myself and Shelley Mitchelson took. On that route we saw no man and particularly, no man with a cut head.
Signed: Gary Daw
Dated: 24.04.91

LYNN NEWS Murder inquiry: People still being questioned, says Police

2008-03-19T07:37:00.004Z

I love that quote from Detectice Superintendent peter fraser, "Lynn is awash with rumour and speculation- but the investigation is not yet complete. There are a number of inquiries still going on and that will be the situation for a time yet. we are still questioning people and potential witnesses and following up information from the public."
First let me say shouldn't they have completed their inquiries before sending 3 innocent people to prison for Murder. Lynn was awash with rumour because it was becoming known the Police had the wrong people. I have ALL the statements taken concerning the Murder inquiry and no new potential witnesses were being questioned. The only people that saw anything to do with the murder made their statements within the 1st three days. The information the Police had they failed to act upon. Shelley Mitchelson saying it was a man wearing a blue and white hooped Rugby shirt, was anyone ever asked about that? Don't be so fucking stupid, not even Gary Sewell the friend of the deceased was ever asked about that. WHY NOT? This whole thing stems from what I said earlier, the Police wanted me and didn't listen to anything that pointed away from me. Where things started to go wrong for the Police is when 2 of the original 9 eye witnesses made further statements to both the Police and defence Solicitors stating they had since seen the people they believed to be involved in the Murder, while Karl and I were in Prison. It must have been the Police's worst fucking nightmare, eye witnesses insistant they had got it wrong. Did we get released from Prison? Not fucking likely. Excuse my swearing.
To be continued...

Gary Sewell's Moment Of Clarity

2008-03-16T19:14:00.003Z

So if you have read all Sewell's interviews and his previous statement you will realise he had what alchoholic's refer to as "a moment of clarity". When all's said and done Sewell is entitled to say whatever he believes to be true. The question you have to ask is did he really believe this to be true? During his questioning when asked on numerous occasions was it Karl, he doesn't say maybe, or it could have been, or now I come to think about it yes. He is addament it is not Karl, let's face it, he describes knowing Karl for 5 years, he describes Karl having an arguement with Gorman outside the club. They went to the same Gym for God's sake.He knew Karl very well make no bones about it. Here's an extract from his 2nd interview:-
Q.
Carl SxxxxxxN was down there.
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Was he one of the three?
R:
No.
Q.
Are you absolutely certain? Are you absolutely certain?
R.
Yeah that weren’t Carl.

Karl had a number of people who could vouch for his whereabouts at the time in question. Two were lads he was having a fight with at the exact same time as the Murder was being carried out. They are what I would call 2 very independant witnesses. Although the Police prosecuted him for that assault they couldn't get it into their tiny little brains that he couldn't be in 2 places at the same time. His ex girlfriend who the fight was over and at least 2 of his friends all gave statements to the Police, but did the Police listen? I'm afraid it seems to be a trait of the boys in blue from the Norfolk Constabulary, they're all fucking DEAF.
So the question remains why did Sewell suddenly have this "moment of clarity"? Did the Police have anything to do with it? I suspect they did.

Gary Sewell 2nd Statement

2008-03-16T19:09:00.000Z

NAME: GARY WILLIAM SEWELL
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 23 11011968
OCCUPATION: ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE TECHNICIAN
Who states: - This statement consisting of 2 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 070391 G W SEWELL (SIGNED)
Further to my previous statement I wish to clarify that I left my home by taxi at 7.35pm on Friday 1st March, 1991. At this time I was with Tony GORMAN. Since this incident where I received my injuries, I have had a considerable time to think about the events of that night. I am now certain in my own mind that the man who approached Tony and myself and said "You've had a good kicking now it’s your mates turn," that this man was Carl SxxxxxxN. I also recollect that SxxxxxxN was wearing a sky blue top I didn't notice anything else about the top. I have known Carl SxxxxxxN for about five years as I used to go to the same gymnasium as he used to. I know that it has taken a long time for me to mention Carl SxxxxxxN as being the man who talked to us in the Tuesday Market Place, but I had to be certain in my own mind before saying so. I cannot recall who the other two men were who were with SxxxxxxN as my attention was drawn to the man who was speaking to us. SxxxxxxN was therefore definitely one of the men who then kicked and punched Tony as I never lost view of these three men and Tony until I lost view of them as I walked just past the Tudor Rose.

G W SEWELL SIGNED
DATE: 07031991
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: DC 557 FROST

RE: Gary Sewell

2008-03-16T10:24:00.002Z

I am reposting the descriptions of all the witness statements; I have included Gary Sewell’s for comparison.
Now let me comment on Gary Sewell’s statement. I hope you have read all his taped interviews. If you have you will see it’s obvious that he knows me and would easily be able to recognize me if I had been one of the 3 people who had approached him and Gorman prior to the attack on Gorman. He gives a description of the clothes I am wearing and describes me joking with him about the incident with the TV. His description of my demeanor is in total contrast to that of Mandy Groom and Emma Register, the female bar staff. I can go further than that; there was not a single customer who had anything bad to say about my actions or behavior prior to me assaulting Sewell.
I mentioned it earlier in this Blog but I’ll say it again as it is for me at least quite unbelievable that Gary Sewell was NEVER once asked if I had been involved in the attack on Gorman. About a year after the murder I bumped in to Gary Sewell and I asked him, why he hadn’t told the Police I wasn’t involved. He told me that the Police had told him that I had joined in the attack after he had walked off in the opposite direction. That sounded about right for those low life Bastards.
I just want to touch on the description he gave of the person who came up and spoke to him and Gorman on the Market Place prior to the attack.
“The man who spoke I will describe as follows: between 20-25 yrs of age, about 5'10" tall of medium build, of short dark coloured hair which was tidy and short at the sides. This man had an angular and long face. He did not wear spectacles. He was wearing jeans and a dark coloured top of some form, but was not wearing a jacket. He had something white in his hands and I gained the impression it was some form of take-away package, similar in size to something like a small kebab”.
Although he was asked in interviews on numerous occasions if Karl was involved and remember Karl is someone Sewell describes as knowing very well. He says “no definitely not”, in a statement he makes 4 days later (which I will post next) he says Karl is that man. Apart from and again something the Police “over looked” the descriptions didn’t match, it’s worth knowing, Sewell didn’t go and volunteer the 2nd statement, the Police went and asked him for it. Also Sewell’s 2nd statement was made on the same day as Jason Colman retracted his, after complaining about the way it was taken. Something fishy going on me thinks.
Anyway here are ALL the descriptions again, it’s pretty obvious the 3 who had the best view of the attackers are: - Gary Sewell, Gary Daw and Shelley Mitchelson.

Karl, aged 25, probably about 5’9” straight light brown hair wearing a light blue T-shirt and jeans.
Rod aged 35, about 6’ straight blonde hair wearing white shirt and black trousers.
Myself aged 29, 6’2” short blonde hair wearing a blood soaked white shirt and black trousers.

1. TERRY MYERHOFFER: 9 Pints of lager
1) Stocky build, 5'8" tall, short fair hair, wearing a white shirt and black trousers. I believe that it was the bouncer who thrown GORMAN out of the Cellar Bar earlier.
2) Medium build, 5'10" tall, dark brown curly hair that appeared to be permed, wearing a light casual shirt and probably trousers.

2. CLIFFORD ELLIS: 10 Pints of lager 1 bottle of Pils lager
1. White, male, 5'8" tall, black curly hair which was quite short, mid twenties, medium build. I can't remember what he wore.
2. White, male, about 5'10" tall, mid twenties, but I can't remember anything else about him.
At this time a third man ran past us, chasing after the other three. I would describe him as being a white male, 6' tall, of heavy build bordering on fat, middle 20's, wearing a loose top which flapped about as he ran and I believe jeans, mousey blonde hair, which was not long.

3. MARK BRAMHAM: 10 pints lager tops
I looked round and saw one man I would describe as bald or really short hair, being chased by two other men. I can only describe as male, white, about my age, dressed in light tops but I cannot recall their descriptions any further, as they were running very fast

4. CAROLINE SCOTT: 5 or 6 Whisky & orange
I turned round and saw the same man, who had been held against the post wearing the quartered Rugby shirt, run past. We were standing on the pavement at the time whilst he was running in the road. Immediately behind him and very close to him, two men chasing after him. Both men were 6'0" tall or taller, well built and both had light hair. The hair of one of them was collar length and brush straight back to clear the ears, whilst the other one was just short. They were both wearing either white or very light long sleeved shirts and black or very dark trousers

5. COLIN LORD: 7-8 Pints of lager
DIDN’T MENTION SEEING THE CHASE

6. GARY DAW: 4 or 5 Pints of lager & Lime
I think the first two men both had dark hair, and were tall and of medium to heavy build. The third man, who had been behind the other two at first, had either light or dark hair, I can't remember, and I think he was possibly shorter than the other two. I don't think any of the men would have had white shirts on or anything particularly light, because they would have stood out. I can't remember having seen any of the three men before that evening either in the Cellar Bar, or outside the Cellar Bar.

7. SHELLEY MITCHELSON: Only mentions having 3 drinks
One of the 3 men, who was wearing a blue & white hooped rugby shirt (who I will describe later)……. Going back to the attacker who was wearing the blue & white hooped Rugby shirt. The hoops / bands were about 2" wide & ran across the body. The blue was a pale blue colour. I can clearly remember that the hoops on his shirt were much narrower, in width then the hoops on the fallen man's shirt. I am fairly sure that the hoops were all over the body of the shirt & ran alternatively white & blue. The man himself was 6’-6’1” tall, stocky build & he had short dark hair. He was also wearing jeans & he was aged early 20's. I am very sure that I saw this man earlier in the evening in the Cellar Bar, standing only a few feet away from me at the bar. Unfortunately I am unable to give much of a description of the other 2 attackers; however, I would say that they were both aged 19-20 years, smaller in height & build compared to the attacker in the blue a white hooped shirt. I cannot separate, in my mind, between the second kicking man & the man who was the puncher, other than one of these 2 may have, I can put it no stronger than that, be the man with the shaven & permed hairstyle involved in the stair incident.

8. GARY SEWELL
The man who spoke I will describe as follows: between 20-25 yrs of age, about 5 "10" tall of medium build, of short dark coloured hair which was tidy and short at the sides. This man had an angular and long face. He did not wear spectacles. He was wearing jeans and a dark coloured top of some form, but was not wearing a jacket. He had something white in his hands and I gained the impression it was some form of take-away package, similar in size to something like a small kebab. His voice did not appear to be right; this may be because he had a sarcastic attitude towards us. The other two men I cannot give any description, other than they were dressed casually, the same age group as the first described man and one was shorter in height, about 5"7" tall. One of this group was wearing tan coloured kicker boots but I cannot recall which one.

Gary Sewells Statement

2008-03-15T17:38:00.006Z

It is better to read this statement after 1st reading the transcripts of his 3 interviews. I will be making comments about this later.

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS
NAME: GARY WILLIAM SEWELL
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 23 11011968
Who states: etc
DATED: 03031991

I am Gary William Sewell and am 23 yrs of age having been born in King’s Lynn on 11th January 1968. I reside at 29 Browning Place, Seabank Estate, North Lynn; King’s Lynn which is a 2 bed roomed flat. I have lived at this address for the last 3 ½ years and I reside there with my wife Deborah SEWELL, nee WILLIAMS who I married on 1st August 1987. We do not have any children. I am employed as an Environmental Service Technician working from my home address for Houseman Ltd. Which is based in Cambridge House, Cambridge Road, Bedford. I have worked for this company for the last three months.
I have known a man by the name of Tony GORMAN who lives below me in a flat with his wife Kim for the last 3 ½ years since I moved to my present address. However it was only over the last year that Tony and myself got to know each other well and started to socialize together. Once or twice each month on a Friday or a Saturday night, Tony and myself would visit Public Houses in King’s Lynn town centre and more often than not, The Wildfowler Public House King’ Lynn. We would usually visit the following town centre pubs: The Mayden’s Head the Cellar Bar and the New Inn on Wootton Road. We would not usually visit the two nightclubs in town that I know as L.A.’s and Manhattans. We would quite often buy a Kebab from either of the 2 Kebab take away shops in Norfolk Street as we walked home. Tony did not like visiting pubs which were crowded. Tony tended to get a bit loud when he had a few drinks and in the past I have been present when he has been drunk and made silly comments to other men in bars, which has resulted in him been threatened and I have had to intervene to stop a fight ensuing. Tony was aggressive in his attitude when he was drunk which was totally out of character but I never saw him physically assault anyone.
He would openly talk to women in the pubs but never chatted them up. As far as I was knew he was not having any form of affair with women and appeared to have a happy marriage. Tony I don’t believe used a wallet to carry his money in and kept his money in his pocket, including the notes when we went out for an evening, he would usually have £20 with him. I never knew him to carry a cheque book or credit cards with him.
On Friday 1st March 1991 about 5.00 pm Tony came up to my flat and I asked him whether he wanted to go out that evening. He agreed and later we arranged to meet about 7.30pm and I told him I would arrange a taxi. I contacted 766166, I don’t know the name of the taxi firm and at 7.25pm the taxi arrived. I went downstairs to tell Tony who wasn’t quite ready but about 8.25pm we got into the taxi. I don’t know what sort of car it was but I believe it was burgundy in colour and the taxi driver was a male about 45-50 yrs of age. I was wearing a pair of blue jeans, a red rugby shirt with grey sleeves and white collar. I was wearing grey patterned socks and a pair of dark brown “kicker boots”. The shirt had a red circle with “Perry Dixon” on the left breast and on one of the arms. Tony was wearing a pair of blue jeans, a dark brown pair of “Hush Puppies” shoes and a rugby shirt with blue, red and white quarters and white collar and red rose on the left breast. We were driven to The Wildfowler Public House, Gayton Rd but on the way, we drove to Tower Street, to the T.S.B. speed bank where I withdrew £30 from my speed bank card. We arrived at the Wildfowler about 7.45 pm and I paid the taxi fair. Tony and I walked into the bar, were we met Robert White who he bought me and tony a pint of lager shandy. Robert and I had earlier been contacted by Tony to see if he wanted to come out that evening.
Generally, Robert would come out with Tony and myself and he was a workmate from a previous employment. Robert was a wearing a thick Arran woollen jumper. Cream in colour and I believe dark coloured trousers possibly lightly checked. He was wearing tan coloured “kicker boots”. Tony mentioned to us in the Wildfowler he had chips and 2 pies and had a bath afterwards which made him feel a bit rough. I told him to liven up as he seemed a bit staid. Tony had a couple of further shandys and I had a pint or 2 of lager and Robert had a pint of lager and a whisky while we were in the pub. I only remember seeing 1 person in the pub who I only know as Roy he used to work at Lynn Tool with me. He is a Geordie in his late 40s with a moustache, of stocky build with a beer belly, about 5’8” tall with thin whispy greasy greying hair. He was wearing scruffy casual clothes. I have an idea he lives somewhere on the Fairstead Estate. I spoke to Row, I believe Robert may have done, but Tony didn’t. I don’t think Tony spoke to anyone apart from Robert and myself whilst we were in the pub. I believe it was Robert who ordered a taxi about 9.30pm and shortly afterwards it arrived. The taxi arrived shortly afterwards, I can’t remember anything about the taxi, but the driver was in his 40’s, large build, about 5’ 10” tall. When the taxi arrived in the pub, Tony asked him if he had come for us. The driver said no and that he had come to pick up some regulars. He returned to his car and returned shortly afterwards stating it was us he had to pick up. When we arrived at the New Inn, I got out of the front passenger seat and all three of us walked to the Sports Bar. We stood at the bar and ordered a pint for each of us, I can’t remember who paid. I then became aware that the taxi driver was standing there and started accusing us of not having paid the fare. I do not know whether the fare had in fact been paid, as I had already paid one taxi earlier on. The taxi told the women barmaid not to serve us until we left and shortly afterwards, he left without mentioning it any further. None of us three spoke to anyone else in the New Inn and only stayed for one pint.
We then decided to leave to go the Cellar Bar in the Town Centre, and we left the pub and in the pub car park we saw a couple of boys getting into a sliver coloured Maestro car. The car reversed from its position and all three of us spoke to the occupants and asked them if they were going into town centre and if they would give us a lift. They said they would and told us to get in. The car was G registered. I will describe the driver as follows: - about 20-22 yrs of age, of medium build, I can’t recall anything else about him. The other man I cannot describe at all but was about the same age. We drove down the northern bypass through Wootton gap lights and from conversing with them, I gained the impression they were not originally from Kings Lynn area but were working in this area bit I do not know what type of work. I asked them if they would drive to my house as I suffered from asthma and my chest was getting tight and I felt I needed to use my inhaler which was at home. We drove to the Seabank Estate via Loke Road and I picked up my inhaler. The two youths then drove us into the town centre and stopped outside the Maydens Head on the Tuesday Market Place, where we got out. The two youths said that they were going to pick a friend up and go to a party.
I think it was now about 10.30pm. We walked into the Maydens Head but didn’t even walk to the bar as it was so crowded. We left immediately and walked across the Tuesday Market Place car park towards the Cellar Bar. I believe Tony may have acknowledged someone in the Maydens Head but I did not see who. We walked down the front steps of the cellar Bar and I think there was a man in the doorway wearing glasses. He was of heavy build and I thought to myself that he looked similar to Mickey Teal who I knew works as a doorman at the Cellar Bar but it wasn’t him. I believe I paid £ 1 admission fee to this man and we walked to the area of the bar just inside the club. Tony bought a round of drinks and I may have had a shandy. We walked around the club together. I remember speaking to a man by the name of ‘chips’ whose real name is Andrew and whose dad’s name is Barry. He lives with his parents near to me and is road worker by trade. He is about 20 yrs of age, thick set, about 6’2” tall, with short dark coloured hair. I believe he was wearing an England tracksuit strip top and jeans. I spoke to him about damaging my hands, an incident which I will now describe. I believe Tony have also spoken to ‘Chips’. I had only been in the Cellar Bar for about half an hour to an hour and the club was becoming packed with people. Tony, I knew had gone upstairs to the toilet and I decided to go upstairs to see if he was alright as he had been gone for while. At the top of the stairs I saw Tony talking to a youth who I will describe as follows: - About 20 yrs of age, about 5’10” tall, of medium, build and was wearing light coloured clothing. I said to Tony “come on Tony lets go downstairs” and he said “look fuck off Gary, I’m talking to someone about my brother”. Tony appeared annoyed I had interrupted him. I gathered Tony was referring to his younger brother who had dies from as asthma attack a couple of years earlier. At this point I saw another man had arrived at the top of the stairs and he then pushed me against a wall and said “yes fucking leave it” This man I would describe as between 20-25yrs of age, well built about 6” tall, with blonde hair which has long over his ears and had a parting in the middle. I did not notice that he was wearing. I said words to the effect that I wasn’t causing any trouble. This annoyed me and Tony’s attitude towards me and I walked to the bottom of the stairs and in frustration as I have done before in these situations, I punched a wall which was covered in plaster. As a result of this I badly bruised both my hands, causing swelling. About 5-10 minutes later I went and spoke to a man who I know as Mickey Teal who works as a doorman at the premises and who I have known for the last few months since I have used the Cellar Bar. He was standing had a go at me up the stairs near the toilets and that I had hit him. I showed him my hands and Mickey jokingly got hold of one of my hands and squeezed it. Mickey probably knows me by my nickname of ‘squirrel’. I told Mickey the description of the man who pushed me but told him this was the man I had hit which was not the truth and I just wanted to impress Mickey. Mickey said that he may know this man but said if I saw him to point him out and he would sort him out. Mickey Teal was wearing a light coloured shirt but I cannot recall what else he was wearing. I cannot recall anybody else that I knew in the cellar bar at this stage and I did not see Tony talk to anybody who by this time had returned to me. He told me that the youth he was talking to upstairs had known his brother but did not elaborate on this. About half an hour later, I was standing by a table in the area between the disco console and the stairs leading up to the toilets. I believe Tony was standing next to me together with Robert White. There may been another couple of people in the immediate at that time but I cannot give any description. A man walked over to me from the direction of the disco console and stood right up close to me add said words to the effect of “what are you staring at”. I said “nothing mate, I don’t want any hassle, leave me alone”. The man was firmly aggressive in his attitude but never touched me. I would describe him as being about 25 yrs of age, about 6’2” tall, of medium build. He had flat straight blonde/ mousey coloured hair which was thinning, which was short but not shaved. He was wearing casual clothes but I cannot give any description. He was by himself. This man then walked towards the front of the club and returned with Mickey Teal, he said that’s only Gary he’s alright. Both Tony and Robert would have seen this incident. About 12.30am, Robert, Tony and myself were in the same position when I stood up from sitting in the chair and I felt something hit my shoulder and fall onto the floor. I then realised that a television had fallen of its bracket above my head and fell onto the floor. Mickey Teal came running over to me and I told him that he hadn’t touched it. He jokingly told me not to throw televisions about and told me not to worry about it. He walked away and someone came and cleared up the mess. I believe the man I have referred to as Chips may have been in the area at this time. Within the next half an hour, the disc jockey announced over the disco system that it was time to leave. The lights in the bar came on and Tony was beside me at this stage together with Robert White. Robert walked to the front door in front of me and I noticed there was a lot of people leaving at the same time. Robert and I walked out of the front doors and up the steps and stayed around the top of the steps talking to Robert and waiting for Tony to come out. We waited a couple of minutes and people were still walking out and as Tony hadn’t come out I went down the steps. I then saw Tony halfway down the stairs talking to a person I know as Carl Sxxxxxxn who I have known for many years. They appeared to be arguing in raised voices but I could not hear what was being said.
I saw a person at the bottom of the stairs who I recognised as Jay Hamman who used to work as a doorman at the Lattice House Public House. Jay was just standing there and I heard Carl Sxxxxxxn say to Tony “I’ll get fucking Mickey and he’ll sort you out”. I took it Sxxxxxxn was referring to Mickey TEAL. Carl started to walk down the steps and walked into the Cellar Bar and I followed him as I wanted to speak to both Sxxxxxxn and Mickey TEAL to stop any trouble that might erupt. I went into the cellar Bar and Carl was describing Tony to Mickey TEAL, referring to Tony as” That little London shit”. I said to Mickey “Let’s fucking leave it” although I did not know what the cause was. Mickey was standing by a pillar near the front door and he rushed out and started to walk up the steps. I got myself in front of Mickey and tried to stop Mickey approaching the top of the steps by standing in front of him and trying to reason with him. I believe Carl Sxxxxxxn was behind us at the bottom of the steps nearer to the club. Mickey TEAL then grabbed hold of me around the throat, I believe using his left hand, squeezed tightly causing me difficulty in breathing. He then head butted me a number of times, I cannot recall exactly how many times, on my forehead. He appeared to have gone berserk and was smiling aggressively and there was nothing I could do to free myself. I understood him to be referring to me trying to calm him down and from approaching Tony. Wayne and Jay HAMMAN were certainly in the area of the steps at this time and they tried to restrain Mickey from hitting me. The man I paid the admission fee to at the entrance to the Cellar Bar was also there and he was also trying to restrain Mickey TEAL. I finally managed to free myself from Mickey TEAL’s grasp and as I was facing the river Ouse. I turned round and quickly started walking up Page Stair Lane. I was there were a number of people around the steps at this time but as my main aim was to get away; I didn’t take any notice of who was there. I could not see Tony or Robert WHITE and in fact I never saw Robert again that evening. I walked towards the Tudor Rose along the footpath that adjoins Radio Norfolk offices and Tuesday Market Place. I believe Tony came from behind me and told me my eye was cut. I was aware there was blood around my face. I cannot recall seeing anybody else on the Tuesday market Place at this time. We walked together towards the Tudor Rose and as we got to the junction with Ward Gethin Solicitors, still on the same side of the road on the pavement, three men walked over to us from the direction of the Tuesday Market Place, from behind my right shoulder. I remember there were a number of cars on the Tuesday Market Place opposite the Radio Norfolk offices and this is why I would not have been able to see them previously. They approached us and one of them said” You’ve had a fucking good kicking” and then looking at Tony he said “Now it’s your turn”. Tony said something back but I didn’t hear what was said. I remember from our position I could still see the entrance to the High Street. The man who spoke I will describe as follows: between 20-25 yrs of age, about 5 "10" tall of medium build, of short dark coloured hair which was tidy and short at the sides. This man had an angular and long face. He did not wear spectacles. He was wearing jeans and a dark coloured top of some form, but was not wearing a jacket. He had something white in his hands and I gained the impression it was some form of take-away package, similar in size to something like a small kebab. His voice did not appear to be right; this may be because he had a sarcastic attitude towards us. The other two men I cannot give any description, other than they were dressed casually, the same age group as the first described man and one was shorter in height, about 5"7" tall. One of this group was wearing tan coloured kicker boots but I cannot recall which one. As soon as Tony said what he said to the man, which I did not hear, he ran along the middle of the road towards the Tudor Rose. The three men immediately ran after Tony and caught up with him outside the Tudor Rose in the middle of the road. Tony turned round and three men immediately began kicking and punching him. I saw Tony wave his arms about towards them as if to protect himself and I believe he may have made contact with at least one of them. I walked slowly to-wards the car park that adjoins the Lattice House Pub as I didn’t want to get involved in a further fight. I saw Tony manage to free himself and by this time he was able to remain on his feet. He ran into the gravel car park and ran towards the Lattice House and I walked back towards the Tudor Rose. I saw that one of this group had tan kicker boots on during the initial fight outside the Tudor Rose. I then saw that the group had reached Tony the other side, of the gravel car park by the Lattice House and were kicking and punching him. All three men were doing this and by now Tony was lying on the gravel of the car park with the three men continuing to assault him. I walked down towards the Naval Reserve, past Trimoco garage, into John Kennedy Road and cut through into Loke Road, past the entrance to the Retreat Public House and using a side road, into Loke Rd. As I walked into Loke Road, I saw a girl walking in the direction of Columbia Way. I asked her about my injuries and whether I needed hospital treatment. She said I could use her phone but didn't say where she lived. She was about 20 yrs of age and I think she had shoulder length straight hair. I cannot recall any other description of her. A taxi then stopped in Loke Rd and the girl got in and the girl asked the taxi driver if he could take me to the hospital. There was already another youth in the taxi in the rear seat who told me his name was Eamon PAYNE. He told me he had found someone lying on the ground in the town centre and he had put him in the recovery position and that he was injured. Eamon told me he had phoned for an ambulance for the man. The taxi driver then drove me to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital where I was treated for my injuries. As a result of the assault on me by Teal, I have received a cut above my right eye below the right eyebrow which required external stitches. I also received a graze above my left eyebrow on my forehead and minor bruising to my throat. I agree with the decision made by the Police regarding prosecution. I would estimate that Tony spent between £13-16 during the evening out with me.

G W SEWELL SIGNED

DATE: 030391

OFFICERS SIGNATURE DET CON 557 FROST

King's Lynn Police and Crown Prosecution Service

2008-03-13T16:24:00.000Z

On the 2nd March 1991 the people of King’s Lynn, but more importantly the Gorman family were very deeply let down by Norfolk Constabulary. However you look at it the Police simply failed in their duty to carry out a thorough investigation concerning the Murder of Anthony Gorman. As time passed the Crown described this as “a most complex case”, well I’m sorry but I don’t buy into that. This was a malicious prosecution by both the Police and the C.P.S. I will continue to post news paper articles that show how they describe 190 witness statements being taken inferring that it was difficult to decipher evidence. That’s a load of shite, excuse my language, as I have stated earlier there was in fact only 9 people who witnessed anything to do with Tony Gorman’s Murder. The only complexities surrounding this case were brought on by the Police and C.P.S. themselves.
To be continued...

RE: Gary Sewell

2008-03-13T13:15:00.000Z

Gary Sewell was arrested on suspicion of causing G.B.H. on the night of Gorman’s death. He was interviewed under caution 3 times. Reading his interviews it would be easy to forget he was actually a friend of the deceased. Whilst under caution, he comes across to me at least, as very evasive. If anyone was going to be able to assist the police in finding the attackers it should have been him. I always believed having received transcripts of his interviews whilst in prison that Gary Sewell had some involvement in the Murder of Gorman. So much so that when I was in prison I requested an interview with the Police to discuss with them what he had said. Unfortunately like most things at that time it fell on deaf ears. Read his 3 interviews again, does he come across as someone who is trying to help further the inquiries? My impression is that he is more concerned trying not to say anything which might implicate him in some way. Even the detectives interviewing him comment that everything he is saying is “average”. There was nothing definitive in his descriptions. I will be posting the statement he eventually made shortly; it should be read in conjunction with his taped interviews. Bear in mind he had been released from custody and was no longer a suspect. Suddenly everything becomes clear. Gary Sewell you were a poor friend to have that night, you definitely let Tony Gorman and all his family down.

Gary Sewell 3rd and final interview

2008-03-12T13:21:00.002Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: GARY WILLIAM SEWELL
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 23 11011968
OCCUPATION: ENVIROMENTAL SERVICE TECHNICIAN

Who states: - This statement consisting of pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED:
(SIGNED)
PERSON INTERVIEWED: GARY WILLIAM SEWELL
PLACE OF INTERVIEW: KING’S LYNN POLICE STATION
DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3RD MARCH 1991
TIME COMMENCED: 08.49
TIME CONCLUDED: 09.05
INTERVIEWING OFFICER: D.S. NEWTON
OTHER PERSON(S) PRESENT: D.C FROST
Q:
You don't not have to say anything unless you wish to do so but what you say may be given in evidence. Do you understand that?
R:
Yes
Q:
Are you happy being interviewed without your solicitor being present at this stage?
R.
Yes, anything to help out.
Q:
O.K., now I'll tell you, I did speak to your solicitor this morning and he said if you are happy to be interviewed he is, but if you want him here he is more than willing to turn up. You are happy to be interviewed without him being here?
R:
Yep.
Q:
Yes?
R:
Yes.
Q:
And there just the three of us in this room?
R:
Yes, that is correct.
Q:
O.k., right, I just want to clarify a couple of points, have you remembered anything more from our last interview?
R:
Yer, there's I think there's a...might been a few more people up on top of the stairs and I think there’s a bloke with Carl on the stairs or in the
Cellar Bar, and it’s possible that one of the people who were sort of kicking Tony....had, brown, er kick brown sort of kick boots on.
Q.
So brown kicker boots, they're sort of soft leather boots aren't they?
R:
Yer, I think....
Q: You're talking about a specific make of boot?
R:
Well I... I always call em kicker boots... that’s just what I think they’re called.
Q:
Describe the best you can what you think a kicker boot is.
R: Like a mountain boot, but like in a casual way, you know what I mean.... like a climbing boot.
Q;
Are they lace up boots or...?
R
Yer, lace up.
Q:
And what colour are we talking about?
R:
Sort of light brown I think.
Q: Tan?
R: Tan, yer.
2.28
Q:
How far up the leg do they go?
R:
About three....three, up to here, about top of the ankle.
Q;
Top of the ankle bone, yer.
R:
Yer.
Q:
And you feel that one of them was wearing, one of the attackers were wearing a pair of kicker boots?
R:
Yer, I feel that…
Q:
Do you remember err which one, was it the one doing the talking?
R:
Err, I don't know, all I can sort of see a sort of picture of him kicking, I picture a pair of then boots.
Q:
At what stage do you remember that they were kicker boots, I mean was it when you first saw these attackers or was it later on or what?
3.05
R:
No, when….when another person was brought into the cell, I sort of looked at him from the cell window and I see them boots that was sort of....
Q:
You're not saying they're those particular boots..,,
R:
No, I not saying...
Q:
They, were very...ident...virtually identical to those that you had seen?
R:
Yer, jogged my memory, know what I mean?
Q:
You're not saying that those particular boots though that you saw through your cell window?
3.27
R:
No I'm not saying they are the particular boots. But you know when you see something that jog the memory a bit like.
Q:
That's right, that's very true.
R:
Yer.
Q:
And you're thinking about the... you said you at one stage, I think it was in first interview, you feel that these lads that attacked Tony were wearing jeans?
R:
Yer.
Q:
Were they sort of tight fitting jeans, baggy jeans, bell bottoms, whatever the women call the them?
3.54
R:
I think they were just probably just casual fit.
Q:
Cause I mean a lot of lads around town, especially those into the House Music have baggy, really baggy jeans on, was it anything like that?
R:
No, definitely not House music type of people.
Q:
Just a normal fit jean you feel?
R:
Yeah, sort of casual wear.
Q:
Were they frayed at the ends or...?
R:
No, (mumbles)
Q:
Sorry?
4.18
R: No.
Q:
No they weren't or no you can't remember?
R:
Can't remember. No.
Q:
Did you notice did you notice a belt at all?
R:
No.
Q:
Were any of them wearing a jacket?
R:
(Sighs), I can't honestly remember if they was wearing a jacket, they just looked sort of casual if you know what I mean, I can remember if they were wearing a jacket or if it was a shirt or a slip on shirt, or jumper, they just looked causal.
Q:
Yeah. You see you're talking about these kicker boots, did they look new or.......
R: Just worn you know, just sort of they'd been worn a few times.
5.01
Q:
You didn't notice any earrings or anything like that?
R:
No, no, (mumbles).
Q:
Even the tops... I mean you're looking at three people wearing tops, do you remember if they were light tops, dark tops, patterned tops?
R:
I think one of them was a fairly darkish top, cos, when I see em, sort of, when Tony run, they run, and he stopped, and they was just kick him, and he was trying to put his foot up in defence and I think one of them was a dark top, but that's.....
Q:
So if one had a dark top, did the other two have light tops?
5.44
R:
I don't know honestly.... I don't know, it could have been a jumper like mine in the dark you wouldn't know what colour it was would you, you see.
Q:
No.
R:
And I say to you when, what I remember when, when I met sort of Tony, up the town, and then three, blokes came up to us, they sort of, one of them exchanged words with Tony and Tony exchanged words back to em and said, said no or something, and I just said leave em alone and Tony run, so it was if Tony knew they wanted to get him.
Q:
What, were anything already been said beforehand?
R:
Yeah, as if, as if, he'd, he'd, he'd, he had said something to them before as if, it was if Tony knew that they was to get him, cos he started to run, and then they run after him.
6.40
Q:
You formed the impression then that Tony knew them, or certainly knew one of them or more than one?
R:
Yeah, I would...... yeah probably.
Q:
What made you form that impression?
R:
Because, while, while I was thinking, it seems to me that when (mumbles) when they come up to us and said to me something about you had a good kicking, now it’s your tur turn, to Tony, and then Tony said something to them, I think he said 'no', I can't remember what he said, I think he said no though, and laughed, and they run after him, know what I mean? Now to me it seems as if that, that Tony either had done something to them and knew that there was three of them and they was going to get him, for him to run off, if you can understand what I mean?
Q:
Yeah, I see what you say. When they came over, o.k. you say, you said before you at the Employed Exchange, whatever they call it....
R:
Yeah, (mumbles).
Q:
How did you face them, did you face towards the Lattice House, did you face towards Cellar Bar, did you face towards St. Nicholas Chapel, how did you look at them?
7.53
R:
No I was on that corner, I was walking and they come over and I think I was just facing.... I... the Employment Centre was to the left of me, and I was probably facing the Employment Centre my back was in front of the Employment Centre I should say.
8.14
Q:
So back to you would have been facing towards best described as assume a car park, towards Maids Head area, towards Town Centre in other words.
R:
Yeah, yeah, towards the Town Centre like.
Q:
What about.... Tony, where abouts was he facing?
R:
He was probably standing beside me sort of like that, I was standing near.... to him.
Q:
To your right or to your left?
R:
To my left.
Q:
So he was nearest to Gaywood area, to the Church.
R:
Yeah to the Church...
Q:
Whatever you want to describe it as.
Q: I mean if you're got your back to level houses....
R:
Yeah you’re right, yeah, yeah...
Q:
So if he's on your left, then he's going to be towards The Tudor Rose, or St. Anne's Street.
Q:
How far along that street were you, I mean, do you know Ward, Gethen Solicitors...?
R:
On the corner.
Q:
On the corner, well they’ve got a car park haven't they, so, and then you come on to the shingle car park, so that if you were facing, that as you were saying, what would you have looking into, would you have been looking into the gravel park car park by the Tudor Rose, the car park of Ward Gethen or towards the building of Ward Gethen?
R:
I'd say that I was looking up from the building of Ward Gethen and I could see into Town.
3.31
Q:
So you were that far, you were right on the junction?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Or see the High Street, basically, you went straight along and see the start of the High Street?
R:
Yeah I'm sure.
Q:
Right so you were right on the corner of Tuesday Market.
R:
Sure, sure I was. Because, I mean, they run, Tony, Tony run down, and he was probably stand…by the Tudor Rose is there… yeah? And the gravel car park was there….
Q:
Yes.
R:
Well he probably got to the Tudor Rose when they first started kicking him and they he got away and run out. 10.04
Q:
Which side of the road was he running, the Tudor Rose side or in the middle of the road?
R:
Middle of the road.
Q:
In the middle of the road?
R: Yeah.
Q: So you're saying that he was assaulted first of all.......
R:
In the middle of the road.
Q:
In the middle of the... outside the Tudor Rose?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
He got up, he ran across......
R:
Well yeah, yeah, he got sort a, he was sort of trying to put up some resistance, they kicked him, he got away, and I went across to the gravel car park to get out of the way of it, and they they went across the gravel car park, so I come back then started to walk, you know carry on walking now I see him getting down towards the latter end, you know latter end of the car park.....
Q:
Did he stumble or fall or anything like that?
R:
I weren’t. ....all I see em do was just kicking him and kicking him so they probably kicked him over.
10.48
Q:
How bad a kicking did he get, I mean you saw, in other words what you are saying you saw that two different kicking’s, one outside the Tudor Rose and the one near the Lattice House?
R:
(Mumbles) They kept kicking and kicking and kicking.
Q:
Well I know it's going to be hard for you, o.k., it’s not a very nice thing to have to go through.... how bad was kicking outside the Tudor Rose?
R:
Outside the Tudor Rose... they were just kicking and punching him, but he did put up some resistance.
11.16
Q:
Was he on the floor or was he standing up?
R:
He was struggling, you know, trying, to, kept struggling to be kept up.
Q:
Did you see him hit any of them?
R:
Like I say he was putting up a resistance with his arms trying to push them away.
Q:
But punches, or who was kicking, did you see any of that?
R:
Might have been…
11.34
Q:
What I'm trying to say is it likely that he would have injured his attackers?
R:
Yeah he might... yeah, he might of done, cos his arms and legs, you what I mean he was trying to put up a resistance, he could we have injured his attackers.
Q:
Do you remember... just digressing from that a little while.... you know when you first met Tony and you met in the Wild Fowler, did you?
R:
Yeah.
0:
And Tony weren't feeling too sharp we he?
R:
No
Q:
Is it right in saying he had had a big meal he said.
R:
He said he'd had something to eat, I think he said he might of had chips or something, and he said you shouldn't get into a bath with a full stomach cos it make you... make yer... he sort get, he reckon he kept getting sort of..........(mumbles).
12.22
Q:
Did he have anything else to eat throughout the evening?
R:
No, pretty sure....
Q: Did he say where he'd eaten?
R:
At home.
Q:
That was at home it?
R:
Urn.
Q:
And there's nothing else you can remember? And are you certain that one of those attackers were wearing kicker boots?
R:
Pretty sure, sort of 80 percent sure.
Q:
Can you just try and think about the hair of any of these attackers other than... anything you can think about the hair?
R:
Sort of... one of them had sort of fairly shortish hair at the side, sort of just neat casual hair really.
13.04
Q:
Just like 90 percent of the lads walking around town?
R:
Like, say that again.
Q:
Just like 90 percent of the lads you see walking around the town, these days, because these days generally the younger element the hair is smarter it was say five years ago, whatever.
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Nothing distinctive you can think about?
R:
No
Q:
And you can't think of anymore names at the top of the stairs?
R:
No.
Q:
What made you think about... I know you say you saw something, oh you thought oh I remember one was wearing kicker boots, but, is that the sort of thing that would stick out in your mind?
R:
What it was, when you told me to go back and think, I went back there and I was thinking, trying to run things through my mind, and then, I, I went to the door, I thought that, that's it I be ringing the bell to have a drink of water, waiting for the bloke, what's he called, you know the key man. Policeman, to come anyway, he brought that person in and take his boots off and put them by the door, and that of sort of suddenly hit me that I had seen them boots....
Q:
Similar boots...
R:
Similar boots to that.....
Q:
Have you owned kicker boots before?
R:
Have I owned kicker boots? I've got a pair of kicker boots, brown dark brown.
Q:
Those are similar to yours, except the colour of them, the ones you were thinking about the assailant or the attacker wore were light brown/tan and yours were dark brown, other than that they were identical, are they?
R:
Yeah, these were more, like I say, a climbing boot, sort of thing.
14.54
Q:
What thick sole, thick rubber sole?
R: Yeah. Yeah. Like sometimes you see em round town, like with camp boots on don’t you, with the socks over the trousers, you know what I mean?
Q:
Yeah know what you mean.
R:
Like that, sort of boots.
15.14
Q:
But generally, that is still just to the top of the ankle.
R:
Top of the ankle yeah.
Q:
Ok can you think of anything else?
Q:
Not at this stage, no.
Q. Anything else you want to say?
R:
I was just trying to remember.
Q:
If there is anything you do remember you'll get in contact with us.
R:
It’s like last night, I rang a bell and as soon as I rang.....
Q:
That's what you've got to do. Did you want to make a Witness Statement?
R:
No, not really.
Q:
I will again serve you with another one of these notices then you'll have a collection, O.k. There’s nothing you want to say? You don't want to make a written statement? R:
No.
Q
Served with you with a notice, that's it then
The time is 9.05, and I will terminate the interview.

Clifford Ellis 2nd Statement

2008-03-09T14:10:00.005Z

This is a second statement made by Clifford Ellis to Karl's solicitor. He made it after hearing we had all been charged with the Murder. To come forward and contradict what was being published in the Press was a very brave thing to do. Not something you would do lightly. Did it make any differance at the time? Don't be silly even with this evidence the prosecution continued and Karl and I remained in Prison.

STATEMENT OF WITNESS CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 1967, S9, MCA 1980, S102
MC Rules 1981 r70
Statement of: CLIFFORD MICHAEL ELLIS.
Address:
Occupation: Ground Worker
Age: 22
This statement (consisting of 5 pages signed by me) is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
Dated...... Signed..... Witnessed by
I make this statement additional to the statement which I made to the Police on the 3rd March 1991. Subsequent to that statement I attended an Identification Parade. I could not effectively take part in the first Parade as I had sat in a room with persons who were on that Parade. I did not know that this was wrong and I only realised it was when one of those men who was on the Parade stated so and then the Parade had to stop. However I recognised Carl Sxxxxxxxn on that Parade who I know and had I been asked to go on I would have not picked him out but indeed would have been able to categorically state that he was not involved. I then went to two other Identification Parades for Moore and Michael Teal and again I did not pick either of them out. I would like to add to that first statement the following. When I went into the Club I stood about mid-way along at the bar. Then I moved to the left and stood talking to Sue Fox in the position that I have indicated on the plan. At the end of the evening I just had a dance with Sue. I was very interested in her. I just saw someone in the crowd being escorted out. I had not seen the video smashed. The Club was very noisy. Indeed I had not seen any trouble at all. I know who Carl Somerton is but I cannot remember if I saw him in the Club, it was very crowded. I know Mick Teal, the bouncer, because I have played five-a-side football against him. I did not know his second name until the Police told me it, I just knew him as Mick. I know Carl through his younger brother Wayne and I have spoken to Wayne on lots of occasions. I have not actually ever spoken to Carl Sxxxxxxn but I know him by sight and name. I cannot say for definite if Mick Teal was working that night in the Club, there are usually two bouncers on. I have never met or seen before the Incident which I will come to a man called Gorman. Indeed the only reason I know that the deceased is named Gorman is because the Police told me. Through the crowd I had seen this man being escorted out when I was dancing with Sue. I had noticed him previously standing by the video which I understand got broken. I remember that he was wearing a rugby shirt which had white squares in it. I cannot be too sure about the other colours, but there was possibly some orange or light brown in the pattern. After this man had gone out I continued dancing with Sue and I did not hear any shouting coming from outside, but it was still very loud. When we left as I was going up the stairs I just remember that this man with the Rugby shirt on was leaning against the wall. I do not recall any conversation or aggro coming from him. Outside I think we walked straight off, but I was fairly pissed by now. I did not see any incident outside. I saw the Police in interview the following night. By then it was all over the news as to the name of the man who had died. That is why I have said Gorman was being chased. I assume it was him being chased, but I cannot be sure that the man who I saw being chased was the same man that I had seen on the stairs. He ran by me in a split second. I have told the Police that those chasing him I would be able to recognise. Indeed if they had been persons that I knew I would have been immediately able to tell the Police who they were, I got that good of view. For that reason I do not think that any of them was Micky Teal. I do not think that any of them was Carl Somerton. I did get a look at their faces, particularly' from the side. If one of them had been Carl Sxxxxxxn I think I would have recognised him. I do not know who they were. The man Gorman did not run across the gravel car park, he went round the back of the second Ward Gethin Office on the corner by the Tuesday Market Place and then round into Chapel Street towards the Council Offices and the men chasing him were following. There were three of them. I got a better look at the third man because he was coming up behind the first two. As to his hair colour it is about like mine, which would make it light brown, but I am not totally sure, it could have been black. I can remember that on the right hand side of the street on the Tudor Rose side I had noticed as we walked along another man walking parallel to us. I do not think this could have been one of the men involved because I am quite sure that the third of the men had already run passed me when my attention was drawn to this other person. This third one could have been wearing a rugby shirt. This man was not Carl Sxxxxxxn. None of them in fact stick in my mind as people I noticed at the Club and indeed none of the three was familiar to me. As I have already stated in my earlier statement my friends then went across to the body but I went on across the street into Austin Street. My impression is that this third man involved in the attack was bordering on being fat.
Signed: CLIFFORD MICHAEL ELLIS

Compare Identification

2008-03-09T12:35:00.006Z

The King’s Lynn Police took in the region of a 170 statements in connection with the murder of Anthony Gorman, but it all boiled down to the evidence of 9 people. Here are 7 of the 9 descriptions for you to compare. I’ve put in the amount of drink they admitted consuming as I think it is relevant to the reliability of the evidence they gave. The 1st 5 are from the group that witnessed Gorman being chased. The last 2 walked by the assault as it was happening and at one stage were a mere 20ft away. I haven’t put Jason Colman’s in as it was retracted by him after he complained about the way it was gathered, (you can read both his statements posted earlier in the blog). The 9th person was Gary Sewell I have 2 more of his interviews to post and the statement he made prior to him being released from custody. So compare these descriptions against each other and decide whether they match the descriptions of Karl, Rod and I.

Karl, aged 25, probably about 5’9” straight light brown hair wearing a light blue T-shirt and jeans.

Rod aged 35, about 6’ straight blonde hair wearing white shirt and black trousers.

Myself aged 29, 6’2” short blonde hair wearing a blood soaked white shirt and black trousers.

1. TERRY MYERHOFFER: 9 Pints of lager
1) Stocky build, 5'8" tall, short fair hair, wearing a white shirt and black trousers. I believe that it was the bouncer who thrown GORMAN out of the Cellar Bar earlier.
2) Medium build, 5'10" tall, dark brown curly hair that appeared to be permed, wearing a light casual shirt and probably trousers.

2. CLIFFORD ELLIS: 10 Pints of lager 1 bottle of Pils lager
1. White, male, 5'8" tall, black curly hair which was quite short, mid twenties, medium build. I can't remember what he wore.
2. White, male, about 5'10" tall, mid twenties, but I can't remember anything else about him.
At this time a third man ran past us, chasing after the other three. I would describe him as being a white male, 6' tall, of heavy build bordering on fat, middle 20's, wearing a loose top which flapped about as he ran and I believe jeans, mousey blonde hair, which was not long.

3. MARK BRAMHAM: 10 pints lager tops
I looked round and saw one man I would describe as bald or really short hair, being chased by two other men. I can only describe as male, white, about my age, dressed in light tops but I cannot recall their descriptions any further, as they were running very fast

4. CAROLINE SCOTT: 5 or 6 Whisky & orange
I turned round and saw the same man, who had been held against the post wearing the quartered Rugby shirt, run past. We were standing on the pavement at the time whilst he was running in the road. Immediately behind him and very close to him, two men chasing after him. Both men were 6'0" tall or taller, well built and both had light hair. The hair of one of them was collar length and brush straight back to clear the ears, whilst the other one was just short. They were both wearing either white or very light long sleeved shirts and black or very dark trousers

5. COLIN LORD: 7-8 Pints of lager
DIDN’T MENTION SEEING THE CHASE

6. GARY DAW: 4 or 5 Pints of lager & Lime
I think the first two men both had dark hair, and were tall and of medium to heavy build. The third man, who had been behind the other two at first, had either light or dark hair, I can't remember, and I think he was possibly shorter than the other two. I don't think any of the men would have had white shirts on or anything particularly light, because they would have stood out. I can't remember having seen any of the three men before that evening either in the Cellar Bar, or outside the Cellar Bar.

7. SHELLEY MITCHELSON: Only mentions having 3 drinks
one of the 3 men, who was wearing a blue & white hooped rugby shirt (who I will describe later)……. Going back to the attacker who was wearing the blue & white hooped Rugby shirt. The hoops / bands were about 2" wide & ran across the body. The blue was a pale blue colour. I can clearly remember that the hoops on his shirt were much narrower, in width then the hoops on the fallen man's shirt. I am fairly sure that the hoops were all over the body of the shirt & ran alternatively white & blue. The man himself was 6’-6’1” tall, stocky build & he had short dark hair. He was also wearing jeans & he was aged early 20's. I am very sure that I saw this man earlier in the evening in the Cellar Bar, standing only a few feet away from me at the bar. Unfortunately I am unable to give much of a description of the other 2 attackers; however, I would say that they were both aged 19-20 years, smaller in height & build compared to the attacker in the blue a white hooped shirt. I cannot separate, in my mind, between the second kicking man & the man who was the puncher, other than one of these 2 may have, I can put it no stronger than that, be the man with the shaven & permed hairstyle involved in the stair incident.

The man Shelley described with the permed hair was infact arrested but quite rightly eliminated. he was the man that helped the girl up after having being knocked down the stairs by Gorman outside the club. I should add he stated he was with Karl all the time after they left the club and was able to give a full account of their actions. So a reasonable person might think if one wasn't charged then the other wouln't be either. WRONG. I have never been able to fathom the Police logic because similarly, Rod who stated he was with me all the time after leaving the club, was released from prison after 2 weeks and then had his charges dropped altogether. So again if they believed he took no part in it but was with me all the while why didn't they believe him when he stated I took no part in it. It just proved the Police really had no idea what they were doing. I often wondered who was leading this inquiry, I had my suspicion it was the bumbling police detective Lieutenant Frank Drebin from Naked Gun, but thinking about it he would probably have done a better job.

Clifford Ellis

2008-03-08T13:58:00.001Z

NAME: CLIFFORD MICHAEL ELLIS
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 22 10071968
OCCUPATION: SELF EMPLOYED GROUND WORKER
Who states: - This statement consisting of 5 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 030331
CLIFFORD ELLLIS (SIGNED)
I am the above named person and I live at the address shown overleaf. I live there with my mother, two sisters SHELLEY aged 20 and XXX aged 12 and two brothers XXXXX aged 21 and XXXX aged 19. I have lived at that address for about 10 years. I am a self employed ground worker; sub contracted to Winchester homes, currently working at Station Road, Watlington.
When I go out for a night in the town at King's Lynn, I usually go to the Mayden's Head Public house or Chicago's, after which we often end up at the Cellar Bar in Page Staithe Lane. I always go out with the same circle of friends who are Mark BRAMHAM, Jason COLEMAN, Gary DAW, Wayne DAW and my sister Shelley MITCHELESON.
On Friday 1st March 1991, I drove my car, which is a Ford Sierra, registered number: LEV413Y, to the Snooker Club in John Kennedy road, King's Lynn. From there I walked to the Mayden's Head public house, arriving at 9.00 pm. Where I met Mark BRAMHAM, JASON COLEMAN, Terry MYERHOFFER and a lad called Colin whose surname I believe is Colin LORD and Wayne DAW. MARK, who was wearing denim jeans and a casual shirt, lives in Newlands Avenue, King's Lynn. JASON, who was wearing denim jeans, a T-shirt and a dark cardigan, lives in Columbia Way, King's Lynn. COLIN, who was wearing a green/grey suit jacket and trousers with a casual shirt underneath the jacket, lives in Newlands Avenue, as a lodger MARK. TERRY was wearing jeans, but I can't remember anything else about him. He is a friend of MARK’s, who he used to work with, but I don't know where he lives, in Terrington. WAYNE, who was wearing dark trousers and a shirt and tie, lives at 149, Columbia Way, King's Lynn. We didn't meet GARY and SHELLEY until we reached the Cellar Bar. Whilst we were in the Mayden's Head public house, I had 2 pints of lager to drink. From there we all went to the Globe Public House, where I had 1 pint to drink. Then we went to Wenn's public house where I had 1 pint of lager, before going to the Lattice House public house, where I also had 1 pint of lager. Finally, we went to Chicago's public house, where I had two or three pints of lager before we went to the Cellar Bar Club, arriving at about 11.00pm. Once inside, we stood as a group near to centre of the largest side of the bar, together with my sister SHELLEY and GARY. Whilst in the Cellar Bar, I drank a further 2 pints of lager and a bottle of pils lager. During the next two hours, I stayed with my friends except for some time that I spent talking to Sue FOX whose birthday it was. Sue was wearing a multi coloured suit or dress, she lives in Kinchinbrook Close, Rainbow estate, King's Lynn. She was with two of her friends, a Lisa SPRINGALL, who wore a black dress and “SAM” (Samantha) CROSS, who wore a short cape like jacket though I’m not sure what else. I think that SAM lives on the Rainbow Estate and LISA lives in a flat in Norfolk Street. Whilst talking to SUE, we had to work hard to make each other heard over the noise, so I was not really aware of anything that happened around us. We were stood at the end of the bar near the toilets. I can remember one incident that happened at about 12.50 am, Saturday 2 March 1991. My attention was drawn to someone being thrown out. I didn't see what happened to cause the ejection and I didn't see which door man was taking the man out, but in hindsight, I believe the man being ejected who was wearing a rugby shirt, which had quarters on the front two of which were white, was the man who I now know to be the victim Tony GORMAN. After he had been taken out, I had a slow dance with Sue FOX and said goodnight to her. She returned to her friends and I returned to my friends, who were still at the centre of the bar. Once the lights had been turned on, I left with MARK, JASON, COLIN and TERRY. As we walked up the stairs, I again saw GORMAN. He was stood about three to four steps up from the bottom leaning against the wall. I did not see any fighting or commotion outside the Cellar Bar. When we reached the top of the stairs we walked through a large crowd of people who were milling about. The only person I recognised in amongst the crowd was Sue FOX. Upon reaching the Market Place, we kept to the left walking towards St. Nicholas Street. As we reached Ward Gethin, we crossed St Nicholas Street and whilst doing so, a youth ran past us, running across the front of us. I believe that it was GORMAN. He was followed closely by two other men, only about ten yards behind him. I hadn't seen these two men before that night, and I do not know then. I would describe then as follows:-
1. White, male, 5'8" tall, black curly hair which was quite short, mid twenties, medium build. I can't remember what he wore.
2. White, male, about 5'10" tall, mid twenties, but I can't remember anything else about him.
The two men caught up with GORMAN outside the Tudor Hose public house, where several punches were thrown by all of them, no more than a couple each. I couldn't see if any punches landed. GORMAN then started running again and when he reached Chapel Street, he turned right and ran towards the Lattice House public house followed by the other two men. At this time a third man ran past us, chasing after the other three. I would describe him as being a white male, 6' tall, of heavy build bordering on fat, middle 20's, wearing a loose top which flapped about as he ran and I believe jeans, mousey blonde hair, which was not long. I was also aware of another man about 40 yards behind us, who I can only remember as being tall. As we reached the gravel car park, I looked across in the direction of the Lattice House public house. I could see a scuffle going on involving the three people who had run past me and the victim GORMAN. The three were around GORMAN, though I can't remember if GORMAN was stood up or lying on the ground. It looked as if all three were involved in attacking him. My view was then blocked by the building opposite the Tudor Rose public house. When I reached the corner we turned right into Chapel Street. The three attackers had gone but I could see GORMAN lying on his back on the ground with his torso and legs on the pavement and his head on the road opposite the Lattice House public house. I wasn't aware of his injuries. I didn't feel very well at this time, having had too much to drink, so I left my friends who walked on down Chapel Street to get something to eat, walking towards where GORMAN lay. I turned into Austin Street where I joined my sister SHELLEY and her boyfriend Gary DAW (I can't remember what GARY was wearing). We all walked to Raby Avenue via John Kennedy Road and Loke Road, cutting through by the Retreat Public House. When I describe the third person as being fat, it may have just been the man's top or jacket filled with air as he ran, rather than fat.
CLIFFORD ELLIS SIGNED

Mark Bramham

2008-03-07T08:49:00.001Z

NAME: MARK DAVID BRAMHAM
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 26 15041964
OCCUPATION: SHOP ASSISTANT
Who states: - This statement consisting of 7 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 030391
M BRAMHAM (SIGNED)

I am the above named person and reside at the address shown overleaf. I was born on 15th April 1964 at King's Lynn. I used to live in Hunstanton until early 1989 when I moved to my present address. I regularly use the town centre pubs of King's Lynn and I now know quite a lot of people by sight but not all by name. On Friday 1st March I came into town for a drink with a group of friends these being:
1.Cliffford ELLIS from North Lynn.
2. Colin LORD from the same address.
3. Terry MIAHOFFER from Terrington somewhere and
4. Jason COLMAN from Columbia Way, but I don't know the number.
We first visited the Maidens Head Pub on the Tuesday Market Place. We arrived all together in a taxi about 9.15 pm. We had a drink in there. I consumed 1 pint of lager tops we then moved on to the Globe and I had another pint of lager tops and then we moved to the Wenns and had another pint of lager tops. We then went to Chicago but could not get in so we went back to the Maides Head and had one or perhaps two more pints of lager tops. We then went back to Chicago. There I had two more pints of lager tops and then we went to the Cellar Bar in Paige Stair Lane. We arrived all together at about midnight or just after. The bar was very busy. We paid our pound admission and went to the bar and purchased another pint of lager. We all stood together talking and I consumed at least two more pints of lager. CLIFFORD and JASON went off at some stage dancing with some girls and stayed with them. We were standing more or less in the centre of the bar Ieaning against it. Just before one o'clock I went upstairs to the toilet, whilst I was up there I heard a very loud bang from the bar area, I did not know what this was. When I went back down in to the bar the lights had been switched on. I saw people standing round and that a TV set had been knocked or fallen from its stand and smashed on the ground. I moved back to my group, who were still at the bar but had moved further along and were about 10 feet from the bottom and near a pillar. CLIFFORD and JASON had returned, and all five of us stood together. I finished my drink. Near a pillar in the centre of the bar I saw a lad I would describe as short and stocky with dark short hair, I can't recall his clothing, being grabbed by another lad I would describe as being quite tall about 6' tall, well built with short fair hair, wearing a light coloured shirt and dark trainers. I think he works in the bar as a bouncer. The bigger lad had hold of the other with both hands round the throat; from the front he then pushed him backwards, still holding his throat, to the main entrance. Here he pushed him against the wall near the door. I did not see what happened between these two anymore. I did not hear any conversation between these two at any time. We then watched the monitor which shows the entrance steps which was situated near the till, I could see people running past the camera and up the stairs, I could see something was going on but could not tell what. More or less straight away, all my group left together, this was about 1.10 am. We went up the stairs out of the bar, there were a lot of people perhaps as many as a hundred, standing round the top of the stairs talking, waiting for taxi's and I did not see anything unusual happening. We all walked round to Barclay's Bank on the Tuesday Market Place and we were joined by a girl CAROLINE, who I don't know, (she was with JASON), she then got some money from the bank. We all then walked across the Market Place to the corner near the employment offices. We then started to walk up Saint Nicholas Street towards Chapel Street. As we got near the archway in Ward Gethin wall, we were on that side of the road. I became aware of footsteps of people running behind us. I looked round and saw one man I would describe as bald or really short hair, being chased by two other men. I can only describe as male, white, about my age, dressed in light tops but I cannot recall their descriptions any further, as they were running very fast. They were all on the opposite footpath to us. The two chased the other lad across the road and almost up to the building near the junction. They half caught him here and pulled at his clothing, but he managed to get away and ran onto the car park and towards the Council offices. As this scuffle took place I was aware of another lad approaching from behind, he was breathing very heavily, he was exhausted; he was on the opposite footpath to us. I would describe him as male, white, about 20-23 yrs, 5'6"-5'3" tall, he looked quite short and stocky. He had dark. neat hair, dressed in I think dark trousers, perhaps dark jeans, he looked to have a tight, T-shirt or rugby shirt on with long sleeves which I can only describe as dark, it did not have any pattern or motifs on it. I did not see where this lad went as my attention returned to the lad being chased. I cannot be certain but someone mentioned some blood on his face but I did not see any. We started to walk across the car park in and out of the parked cars, intending to go to Norfolk Street for supper. When we reached the entrance of the car park on Chapel Street we met Gary DAW and a girl I only know as SHELLY. I know she lives with Clifford ELLIS in North Lynn. I know GARY comes from Columbia Way, King's Lynn. GARY and SHELLY were about to walk down Austin Street I think it's called, past the old driving test place. GARY said "There's a lad up there been given a good beating and we saw it", they then walked down the road I described. Clifford ELLIS joined these two and walked off with them. The remainder of our group, which was TERRY, CAROLINE, COLIN, JASON and I, carried on to walk to Norfolk Street. I saw a lad laying on the footpath outside the council office. Prior to our crossing the car park as we stepped over the railings, I saw at least two men which appeared the same two that had chased the other man, had caught him and were kicking and punching him. At this time I would say I was seventy five yards away but the area was well illuminated. I cannot say who was actually doing what to the lad; it was just a flurry of punches and kicks. I can't say if he was still standing or if they had knocked him to the ground or he had fallen or what had happened. I then carried on walking. I did not see where these lads ran away to but they had gone and one lad was laying on the ground. I can say that they did not run past us. The lad was flat on his back with his head in gutter feet facing the council offices, hands by his sides and he was gasping for breath, he had a lot of blood over his face. I can say this was definitely the lad who had been chased, I recall a “Rose” motif on his shirt, I had seen him in the Cellar Bar earlier. No-one attempted first aid or anything, we just looked at him. JASON then ran to the taxis and ordered an ambulance. He returned and we stood looking and just talking to each other about him. We were all right near him on the road and path. It seemed as if we waited ages, so I ran back with JASON to the taxi place to see if they had ordered an ambulance, JASON remained at the taxi place, I ran back to the man. After a short time, perhaps just seconds, JASON came back with another lad, he was smart in a suit, he had dark spikey hair this lad and I then moved the injured man onto his right side into the recovery position, off the road. A Police car then approached from Norfolk Street. I ran to the car and told the officers there had been some trouble and he then drove up to where the lad was laying. I also ran back, a matter of seconds later I saw the same man that had hold of the man by the throat in the bar, run towards us from the taxi place direction. He looked at the man on the ground and said "That's one of the bastards, where's the other one" and he ran off towards the Church but I don't know where he went. This lad that ran past at that time could have been one of the men I saw chasing the other earlier, as he appeared to be dressed the same. I can also say that when this man ran past when we were near the injured man, he had blood on his shirt front but I did not see any on his face. The whole incident, the assault lasted about 3 minutes. I did not have a clear view of it all because of the cars we were walking between on the car park. I think I could recognise the lads if I saw them again because their faces seemed familiar, I have seen them in local pubs. There is only one person I can recall knowing when I came to the top of the stairs, coming out of the bar and that was Carl SxxxxxxN. He was dressed in a long dark coat, I do not know him, I only know him by sight because of his body building. I do not know who he was with. It's fair to say I know a lot of lads in town by sight but not by name as I have not been in the town that many years and I also work out of town. That night I was wearing green trousers, brown slip on shoes, a shirt which is purple, white and khaki, Paisley patterned.

M BRAMHAM: SIGNED

RE: Colin Lord

2008-03-04T11:49:00.001Z

I should make it perfectly clear that my observations about witness statements are not intended as a criticism of the people making them. They are in fact aimed at the King’s Lynn Police for their ineptitude and failing to conduct rudimentary investigations thoroughly. Colin Lord got many things wrong but that’s not his fault. As an indication to how poor his memory of events were let me give you some examples. Of the 4 lads he was out with that night he remembered 1 was wearing a flowery shirt and 2 had jeans on. Not a good start hey. He actually forgot that they went to Barclays Bank after leaving the club so he gives a wrong description of the route they all took. He doesn’t even mention seeing Gorman being chased or even being assaulted. How bizarre is that? Something he did mention that might have proved important but of course was missed by the idiots conducting the inquiry was he saw and was able to describe. He states “I followed the others around the corner when I saw a man running from the direction of the Lattice House turning right into the road leading to a car park behind the council offices. He was quite short, 5 foot 5" tall, medium build, short hair, I think brown and straight, in his early 20's.”
So here we have a description of a man running away from where the assault took place but was that ever followed up? Of course not. Just one more thing the King’s Lynn boys in blue FAILED to act upon. Yet another indication that they jumped the gun with their assumptions. Colin gets another thing right that night though, when I run past them all he remembers me saying “something like, where’s his mate”. Similar to what I and the Police Officers present said I said.

Colin Lord

2008-03-04T10:25:00.001Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: COLIN LORD
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 25 30071965
OCCUPATION: BUTCHER
Who states: - This statement consisting of pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.

DATED: 040391 COLIN LORD (SIGNED)

I am Colin Barry LORD and I live at the address overleaf. On Friday, 1st March 1990 I went out for the evening with a group of friends. I left at about 9 pm. with Mark BRANHAM, Jason COLMAN, Clifford ELLIS and Terry MYERHOFFER. I was wearing jeans, a white shirt, a tweed blazer and brown lace up shoes. I think Mark wore a dark flower shirt and no jacket. Jason had jeans on but I can't remember anything else. Terry wore jeans but I can't remember what else. I can't remember what Clifford was wearing. We went around various pubs during the evening including the Maydens Head, the Globe Hotel, Lattice House and Chicago’s. During the evening I had 7 or 8 pints of lager. I wasn't drunk did feel the effect of the alcohol. At about 11.45 pm. we went into the Cellar Bar. The bar was full of people. Inside I said hello to lan DIGGINS. He is a doorman there. I know him from Snettisham. I only moved from Heacham about 5 weeks ago. We met up with Wayne and Gary DAWS and one of their girlfriends. I can't remember which one. She had dark hair. Throughout most of the time we were in there we stood around the middle of the long bar which is on the right hand side as you go in. I can't remember seeing anyone else I know in the club. The only other doorman I noticed other than lan was a blonde spikey haired man about 6 foot tall in his late 20's and was big build. lan and this man wore white shirts, black trousers. I don't think they wore ties. A short time before the bar closed, I was standing with my back to the bar when I saw the spikey haired bouncer push a man up against the square pillar in the middle of the club. The bouncer grabbed him by the chest of his red, white and blue squared jacket, 4 squares. As he did so he knocked a number of glasses off the shelf around the pillar. I think this man was thrown out as he was being pushed from behind by the bouncer. I think there was a bit of a scuffle in the entrance lobby as people started to gather around that area as if to see what was happening. A few minutes later I left the bar with Mark, Jason, Clifford, Terry and Caroline. She is a friend of a friend. On the way up the stairs leading to the street I saw the man who had been thrown out. He was standing on the right hand side or the stairs about half way up. He wasn't doing or saying anything he just stood, there. At the top of the stairs a crowd of about 50 people were stood around the railings above the stairs. We walked as a group past these into the Tuesday Market Place. I looked back towards the Cellar Bar. The crowd was still there and nothing appeared to be happening. We walked across the Ieft hand side of the Market Place into the road and past the Tudor Rose We turned right at the top of this road where Ward Gethens office is.
Before we did Mark said something about a man lying on the floor. I held back in anticipation which Mark said, "Come on, we can't just leave him there." I followed the others around the corner when I saw a man running from the direction of the Lattice House turning right into the road leading to a car park behind the council offices. He was quite short, 5 foot 5" tall, medium build, short hair, I think brown and straight, in his early 20's. He was wearing a brown bomber type jacket and dark trousers. I then saw someone lying half on the road, half on the pavement on the opposite side to the Lattice House. As we approached him I recognised him as the same person I had seen thrown out of the Cellar Bar. There was a lot of blood over his face and he could hardly breath. Jason ran down to the taxi office to phone for an ambulance. He returned with another man. This man and Mark moved the injured man onto his side as he was lying on his back. A couple of minutes later a police car arrived with two policemen. One got out and looked at the injured man. The other stood by the car door. I than saw two bouncers come along the road from my left. This was either from the lane beside the Lattice House or Norfolk Street direction. They were staggered about 15 to 20 feet apart. The first one was the spikey haired bouncer who had ejected the injured man. He had some blood on his shirt. He said something like, "Where's his mate" as he walked past. He then ran off as someone said to the policeman "Go get him." He ran towards the Church. The second one had words with a policeman. He appeared concerned for his mate saying something like, "I'm trying to go after him." This man was in his 30's, about 5'11" tall, normal build, dark short medium hair, longer at the back touching his collar. He was in a white shirt and dark trousers. I recognised him as a doorman from the Cellar Bar on previous occasions I have visited. He walked off. I can't remember which way but I noticed a third bouncer standing near the Dukes Head car park. I didn't see him arrive. I just noticed him standing there. He was tall, 6 foot plus, normal build, in his 30's with black hair which I think was wavey and I think he had a moustache. I think he was wearing a black suit, a white shirt and I can't remember a tie. We walked off into Norfolk Street, I didn't see where this third man went. This man is also a doorman at the Cellar Bar I have seen on previous occasions. I am certain the first and third doormen I have described are doormen of the Cellar Bar, but the second I have seen either as a doorman or with other doormen at the Cellar Bar. He does not give me the impression that he is a bouncer. I am not, sure if I would recognise the man in the brown jacket but would recognise the three doormen. There was street lights on when I saw the doormen. I saw them quite clearly, they past just the other side of the police car from me.
COLIN LORD SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 040391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE:
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: DC586 HAWKINS

Early Test

2008-02-29T16:02:00.000Z

Caroline Scott

2008-02-29T10:03:00.000Z

NAME: CAROLINE SCOTT
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 17 27091973
Who states: - This statement consisting of 11 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 040391 C L SCOTT (SIGNED)
I am Caroline Louise SCOTT and I live at the address stated overleaf where I have lived since October 1990. Before this I used live with my mother at 15 XXXXX road, West Lynn, King's Lynn, and I lived there for about a year. Before this I lived on the Fairstead Estate for about 6 months to a year, at 7 XXXXXXXX XXXXX, and before living there I lived at 15 XXXXXXXX XXXXXX, West Walton Highway, near Wisbech, where I had lived for a number of years. I presently live on my own. My social life usually consists of going to the pubs in King's Lynn Town Centre, usually about once a week. The pubs and clubs I normally use are Chicago’s in Norfolk Street, The Wenns in Saturday Market Place, and L.A’s, which is above Argos. I don't always go out with the same girls when I go out. On the last three or four Friday nights I haven't been working and so I have been able to go out on each Friday night, and I have been to Chicago’s on each occasion. About 8 pm on the evening of Friday 1st March 1991 I was at home at my flat when my friend Anne POWELL came round. I don't know where she lives but she works at the Pizza Gallery, where I also work. After putting my make up on and getting ready the two of us walked to the Wenns Public House arriving between 8.10pm and 8.15pm. The two of us stayed in the Wenns for about an hour and had a couple of orange juices each. Then we left the Wenns we then went to McDonalds in the High Street where we had something to eat, before going on to the Chicago’s public house in Norfolk Street. We got into Chicago’s around 10 pm. I was drinking whisky and orange juices in Chicago’s, whilst my friend Anne had a variety of different drinks. Whilst we were in there I met some other friends, who arrived later than us, Mark Jason, Colin, Clifford and Terry. Mark lives at 13 XXXXXXXX Avenue, but I don't know his surname. Jason is tall with dark hair and was wearing jeans and dark mustard coloured T shirt with a black pattern and buttons and a dark cardigan. I don't know his surname but I think he lives in North Lynn, somewhere near XXXXXXX Avenue. I don't know much about Colin other than the fact that he also lives at 13 XXXXXXX Avenue with Mark. I don't know much about Clifford but I think he also lives near to XXXXXXX Avenue. I think he still lives with his parents, but may be in the process of buying a place of his own, and I think he works in the building trade. On the Friday evening he was wearing a light coloured T shirt underneath a light coloured shirt, and. possibly jeans. He is quite tall and has short dark hair. I don't know Terry's surname, but I think he lives in Terrington. He is not as tall as the others, and on the Friday night he was wearing a navy top, which I think had either a pattern or picture on the front, and possibly jeans. Mark was wearing jeans and a white shirt, whilst Colin was wearing a tweed jacket over what I think was a shirt, and probably jeans. I had met all these when at a party at 13 XXXXXXAvenue, about 2 to 3 weeks ago. After having about four to five whisky and orange juices they asked Anne and I if we would like to go to the Cellar Bar with them I had only been to the Cellar Bar on one previous occasion and that was on the evening of the party. I am not sure what time we left the pub to go to the Cellar Bar but we all left together. I was not keeping a track of the time at all. I know we must have arrived at the Cellar Bar after 10.30 pm as we had to pay to get in, but it could have been a fair bit later than that. When we arrived at the Cellar Bar we walked down the stairs and into the entrance hallway. We had to queue for a short time to get in as there were other people in front of us waiting to pay to get in. The boys were in front of us and paid before us. We then paid our money to the two men standing there. These two men were both smartly dressed in suits, but I can't remember whether they were bouncers or not. I just paid my money to them and didn't really take that much notice of them. I followed the boys into the main part of the club which was packed, like sardines and then went straight to the bar. I bought myself and Anne another drink, having another whisky and orange myself. During the rest of the evening we moved about the club, and danced on the dance floor with Clifford and Terry. I also saw that the two twins Gary and Wayne, who I had also met at the party, were also in the club. I was also introduced to Clifford's sister, who was with one of the twins. I can't remember what her name was. The only other person who I knew who was in the Cellar Bar was a girl called Sue FOX. She was wearing either a flowered or patterned top, and I think black trousers. She had her hair tied back, and possibly in a french plait. I do not know where she lives, Clifford seemed to know her. I remember that at about 12.30 am. Anne asked me what the time was as she didn't want to stay late. A short while later, probably about 12.45 am. she asked one of the bar staff to order her a taxi which she did. Once the taxi had been ordered Anne went out and that was the last time I saw her that evening. Shortly after Anne had left I was standing with the group of boys against the bar, about opposite the disco, when there a loud crash. The place went quiet and possibly the music stopped or went low, and then the D.J. told us to carry on enjoying ourselves. I don't know what made the crash but I understand from the conversation immediately afterwards that a television had fallen from the wall. A short while after this, possibly a couple of minutes later I was still standing in the same place. I was leaning against the bar, with my back to the bar and Mark was standing next to me to my right and I think Terry was possibly in front of us. I saw that there was a scuffle near the main pillar and I saw that one man, who I assumed was one of the bouncers, had hold of another man against the pillar. He had hold just below the throat, I think with one hand, and it is possible he had the other fist raised. I would describe the man I think was a bouncer as being very well built, wearing either a white or light coloured shirt and smart dark possibly black trousers. I think his face was a little bit chubby. He had very short blonde or very light hair, which looked as if it had been shaved short. The other man, who was being held, was wearing a rugby type shirt, which was quartered, which was red and blue, and possibly another colour, and he was wearing jeans. He had light short hair and was of medium build. The man holding him said to him something like "Don't ever do that again." I assumed that this incident was something to do with the television. The man with the Rugby shirt on then left the club through the door, whilst the bouncer followed immediately behind as if to ensure that he left. As they went out of the door a lot of people went in the same direction as if to see what was happening, but I remained against the bar. A short while later we decided to leave and so finished our drinks and made our way out of the club. At this time I was still with Clifford, Mark, Colin, Terry and Jason. We walked out of the door and I saw that there people standing on the stairs and at the top of the stairs. I had to walk up the left hand side of the stairs, to get past the people who were just standing there. When I got to the top I again saw Sue FOX who was standing kissing a man. I didn't know the man but I think he was wearing a white shirt and possibly jeans or trousers. There were a few other people standing around, but there was nothing out of the ordinary happening. The whole group of us walked into the Tuesday Market Place and turned immediately right, and walked to Barclays Bank, where I got some money out of the machine. Whilst I was getting my money the five lads were just standing nearby talking. When I had got my money we all then walked diagonally across the Market Place and left the market place down the same road that the Tudor Rose is on. We walked on the pavement on the opposite side of the road to the Tudor Rose. I don't think we had quite reached the gravel car park although I could see it, when I heard the sound of somebody running behind us. I think I was standing near the back of the group but I can't remember who else from our group was also at the back. I turned round and saw the same man, who had been held against the post wearing the quartered rugby shirt, run past. We were standing on the pavement at the time whilst he was running in the road. Immediately behind him and very close to him, two men chasing after him. Both men were 6'0" tall or taller, well built and both had light hair. The hair of one of them was collar length and brush straight back to clear the ears, whilst the other one was just short. They were both wearing either white or very light long sleeved shirts and black or very dark trousers. The two men caught up with the other man about two to three metres in front of us. The man being chased spun round to face us and I think one of the other men had hold of his shirt. There was a brief struggle and then the man being chased managed to free himself. I did not see any injuries on the man being chased, but the other two who had been chasing him had their backs to me. The struggle only lasted a matter of seconds before the man struggled to free himself and run away. I think that the man then ran off across the car park in the direction of the Lattice House and the other two men followed. I have to say, however, that my view was restricted as I was at the back of the group and only being about 5'3" tall I could not really see where they ran to. I could then hear the sound of what I thought was a fight. As far as I remember I could hear the sounds of somebody either hitting or punching somebody else, and the groans of somebody in pain. These sounds came from the direction that the men had run in, in other words from the Lattice House direction. I did not actually see what was happening. I only heard the sounds I have described above. I then continued along the road, until reaching Chapel Street, where I turned left towards Norfolk Street. On turning the corner I saw one of the twins, the one wearing a coloured top, walking with Clifford's sister. Clifford left our group and walked across to join then. They were walking from the direction of Norfolk Street and were heading in the direction of Austin Street. We carried on walking along the pavement on the same side of the road as the Lattice House. We were almost outside the Lattice House and the group stopped and I saw on the pavement directly opposite us on the other side of the road the man who had been chased was lying on the pavement. He was lying on his back, with head just on the kerb, nearly into the road. There was blood on the road and all around his face. There were no other persons around; either walking away or towards. There were no vehicles around either, apart from possibly a car parked outside the taxi office further up Chapel Street. I could hear that the man lying on the pavement was breathing, but it was deep breathing and heavy and slow. He was obviously having difficulty breathing. Jason ran off in the direction of the taxi office, to get an ambulance. At this point I was crying because I found what I saw very upsetting. I think that either Mark or Colin asked the man lying on the pavement whether he was alright. Terry was meanwhile comforting me. Jason then returned, running, and stated the ambulance was on its way. He was followed by another man who had come from the direction of the taxi office. He was a coloured shirt, possibly mustard coloured, and trousers, maybe black, but dark in colour. He had a moustache and dark hair. This man asked whether an ambulance had been called and then with the assistance of Mark he put him in the recovery position. We carried on standing there, and then a taxi drew up and there was another man standing nearby. I don't know whether he had got out of the taxi, or then got into it. I then saw a police car come round the corner from Norfolk Street, into Chapel Street. One of the group I was with, possibly Mark ran towards the police car to attract their attention. The police car then pulled up to us and one of the officers got out of the car and bent down over the man lying on the pavement. I am not sure but I think the taxi had left by this time. I was paying more attention to what the policeman was doing, Mark spoke to the policeman and asked him if he wanted our names, but the policeman said he didn’t; we told him that the ambulance had been called. We then started to walk away in the direction of Norfolk Street on the same side of the road as the man had been lying. We were nearly opposite Surrey Street when I saw two men walking toward us. Both these men were of the same description as the two men I had seen chasing the other man earlier, they were of the same build and wearing the same clothes. In my mind they were the same two men who had been chasing him One of the men was slightly behind the other, and the one with the shorter hair was in front. I think the one behind, who had the longer hair, slowed down as he passed me, as he saw the police car ahead of him. The whole group stopped and may even have started walking back towards the police car. I think possibly Mark was still talking to the policeman. I then heard the man who was in front, the one with the shorter hair, shout something like "That’s one of the bastards, let’s get the other one". As he said that he then started to run towards St. Anne’s Street. The other man behind him started to run as well to catch him up, but I didn't hear him say anything. I then heard Mark say something like "That’s then, aren't you going to do anything." The police car than drove off after the two men, whilst one policeman remained with the man lying on the pavement. We then carried on walking down Norfolk Street. As we were walking down Norfolk Street I saw a car (I can't remember the type or colour) stop somewhere near Spoils. A man got out of the car and walked to the alleyway near Spoils, where he punched another man, the man who had been kissing Sue FOX. I didn't see where he hit him. I then heard her shouting and realised she was also there. The man who had been hit then walked down the alleyway and the man who had hit him got back into the car and drove off. I don't think Sue got into the car. We carried on walking and soon I saw the man who had been hit also walking down Norfolk Street. I think all the group I was with knew the man who had been hit and I think Terry spoke to him and asked if he was alright, we then walked to the taxi office in Norfolk Street, where we subsequently got a taxi to go to 13 xxxxxxx Avenue. Throughout the evening I had consumed about five or six whisky and oranges, and so although I was a little merry I was not drunk. I am slightly short sighted but when I go out I do not wear my glasses and I didn't have my glasses on, on the Friday night. Further to the above, I think the part where Mark asked the policeman whether he wanted our names came after the two men had gone past the policemen.
C L SCOTT (SIGNED)
DATE: 040391
OFFICERS SIGNATURE:DC448 WILLIAMSON

RE:- Terry Meierhofer

2008-02-28T12:34:00.002Z

For those of you who are following this Blog with interest, it may be a good idea to start taking notes of the descriptions given by the witnesses who actually saw anything in relation to the actual assault on Tony Gorman. I will be doing it myself for you after I have presented all the eye witness accounts. If the King’s Lynn Police had done that and also used a time line with events they could be certain about perhaps they would of looked else where for the killers.
So to Terry Meierhofer’s statement. Well by his own admission he’s had at least 9 pints of lager. I can’t say how that may of affected his memory of events, or can I?
Well the next statement I will post is from a girl called Caroline Scott and although she wasn’t even mentioned in Meierhofer’s statement she did infact leave the Celler Bar with him and the other lads mentioned. They didn’t go the way described by Meierhofer:
“As a group we all walked to the Tuesday Market Place keeping to the left and walking straight to St. Nicholas Street. Once in St. Nicholas Street we started crossing the road by Ward Gethin solicitors and as we did I saw GORMAN”
They actually turned right at the Market Place and walked to Barclay’s Bank where Caroline Scott got some money out (that transaction was timed by the bank ) before walking diagonally back across the Market Place towards St. Nicholas St. That’s just one indication that his memory wasn’t that good.
Another is :- “I believe that I would, recognise both of these men again. Upon reaching Chapel Street, they turned right and I lost view of them behind a building.”
According to the other witnesses they ran across the gravel car park in FRONT of the building Meierhofer is talking about
He correctly describes Gorman as about 5’8” tall and he correctly describes the man who put Gorman in the recovery position as about 5’ 8” tall. His description of the attackers is as follows:
1) Stocky build, 5'8" tall, short fair hair, wearing a white shirt and black trousers. I believe that it was the bouncer who thrown GORMAN out of the Cellar Bar earlier.
2) Medium build, 5'10" tall, dark brown curly hair that appeared to be permed, wearing a light casual shirt and probably trousers.
So if Meierhofer is to be believed and I am infact the 1st attacker, apart from the fact I am 6’ 2” a good 6” taller than Gorman, who the fuck is the second one because it doesn’t match either Rod or Karl. Rod is 6’ with straight blond hair and Karl about 5’ 8” with straight light brown hair. Again no mention of my shirt been covered in blood which is something that should of stuck out in anybodys memory if they had infact seen me there. He does mention it when he sees me run past the body. Another thing that is strange to me is how he describes it:
“One of the policemen was bent down kneeling over GORMAN and the other stayed by the police car. Whilst the policeman knelt over GORMAN the bouncer who had ejected GORMAN came back again, running from the direction of the taxi office. He approached from behind me he stopped briefly and looked at GORMAN saying, "That's one of the bastards" before running off towards the Church”
Surely if he had been right earlier he would of said the bouncer who I saw chase Gorman down St Nicholas street.
This investigation stinks and I hope your starting to smell it too. Gary Sewell the friend of the deceased who spoke to the attackers immediately before the attack doesn’t describe or even mention me. Gary Daw and Shelley Mitchelson the 2 people who came closest and had the best view don’t mention or describe me. So now how come all of a sudden is it now someone in a white shirt and black trousers? It really just doesn’t add up. Like I said earlier keep a note of all the descriptions and compare them against each other, it will be interesting. For your information although he states he would recognise the two men again, he didn’t pick me, Rod or Karl out on the ID parade 2 days later. He did infact pick out a dark haired lad who had nothing to do with the inquiry.

Terry Meierhofer

2008-02-28T10:56:00.003Z

NAME: TERRY JOHN MEIERHOFER
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH 22 21051968
Who states: - This statement consisting of 5 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.

DATED: 030391

T J MEIERHOFER (SIGNED)

I am the above named person and I live at the address shown overleaf. I live there with my father. I am employed as a factory operative working for British Sugar at the King’s Lynn factory. For the past eight and half months I was going out with a girl called Lisa BURRELL who lives at 69 Bishops Road, Gaywood. She finished with me about two weeks ago and Mark BRANHAM, who I used to work with, asked me out for a few drinks. Friday, 1st March 1991 was the third time I had been out drinking with Mark and his friends. At about 8 pm on Friday, 1st March 1991, I went to Mark BRANHAM’s house which is in Newlands Avenue, King's Lynn. There I met one of Mark's friends called Jason. I do not know his surname or where he lives, Mark was wearing a white casual shirt and denim jeans and Jason was wearing a dark cardigan, sports T shirt and denim jeans. We all took a taxi to the Tuesday Market Place, where we went Into the Maydens Head Public House. There we met Cliff, I don't know his surname or address but he was wearing casual clothes, and one of the DAW twins who wore a pair of trousers and a casual shirt. Also in the taxi with us was Colin, another of Mark's friends whose surname I don't know. Colin wore a greybrown suit with a casual shirt underneath. Whilst in the Mayden's Head public house I had one pint of Carlsberg lager, before we left to go to the Globe public house where I had 1 pint of lager. From there we went to Wenn's and the Lattice House public houses having one pint in each, before arriving at Chicago's public house where I had two or three pints. At about 11 pm that evening, before closing time, we all left and went to the Cellar Bar in Paige Staithe Lane, arriving between 11.15 and 11.30 pm. We paid about £1.00 entry fee and once inside we all stood together at the centre of the large bar. Whilst in the Cellar Bar I had two more pints of beer and spent the time talking with my friends and having a couple of dances. Between 12.30 pm and 1.00am my attention was drawn to a disturbance to my left. I saw one of the bouncers, whose name I don't know, but I realised he was a bouncer because he was dressed in black trousers and a white shirt and he conducted himself in the manner of a bouncer, he was taking another man out the bar holding him by the back of the neck. The man he was taking out was 5'8" tall, with short fair hair almost in a crew cut, stocky build, wearing a rugby shirt which had four quarters of different colours. In hindsight, I now know the person who was ejected to be the person who was killed in Chapel Street, who I now know to be Tony GORMAN. I couldn't tell if GORMAN was with anyone.
I carried on enjoying myself until the disco finished and the main lights were put on. It was about 1.00 am I left the Cellar Bar together with my friends Cliff, Mark, Colin and Jason. As we walked up the steps to Page Staithe Lane I saw GORMAN stood on the right hand side of the steps at the top, leaning against the wall. He was talking to someone who I didn't recognise and seemed quite calm. I couldn't describe the people he was talking to. As a group we all walked to the Tuesday Market Place keeping to the left and walking straight to St. Nicholas Street. Once in St. Nicholas Street we started crossing the road by Ward Gethin solicitors and as we did I saw GORMAN run past us towards Chapel Street. He was pursued by two men at least. I would describe the two men as follows:-

1) Stocky build, 5'8" tall, short fair hair, wearing a white shirt and black trousers. I believe that it was the bouncer who thrown GORMAN out of the Cellar Bar earlier.

2) Medium build, 5'10" tall, dark brown curly hair that appeared to be permed, wearing a light casual shirt and probably trousers.

I believe that I would, recognise both of these men again. Upon reaching Chapel Street, they turned right and I lost view of them behind a building. As we reached the gravel car park I looked across outside the council offices I could see one person kicking out. I couldn't see what he was kicking. The lighting wasn't very good across the car park and all I could really see was the outline of this person kicking out. We walked up to the junction with Chapel Street and turned right into Chapel Street. I could see the body of GORMAN lying on the road. I walked to the body, together with Mark, Jason and Colin. When I reached it I saw that it was Tony GORMAN he lay on his back, his waist downwards on the footpath and above his waist on the road, immediately outside the council offices. I saw and heard that GORMAN was breathing strangely. We sent Jason down to the Phoenix taxi office to call an ambulance and as he went a man and a woman ran down the road to us. The man, who was about 5'8" tall with permed dark hair and a dark moustache, wearing casual clothes, said, "Leave it to me, I know what to do." He placed GORMAN into the recovery position on his side and we waited for the ambulance, within a short space of time a police car arrived. One of the policemen was bent down kneeling over GORMAN and the other stayed by the police car. Whilst the policeman knelt over GORMAN the bouncer who had ejected GORMAN came back again, running from the direction of the taxi office. He approached from behind me he stopped briefly and looked at GORMAN saying, "That's one of the bastards" before running off towards the Church. I didn't see exactly where he went. Shortly afterwards another man came running towards us from the direction of the taxi office. He ran straight past us in the same direction as the first bouncer. This man was dressed in a white shirt; he was over 5'10", medium build, running down St. Ann's Street out of sight. As he ran past he seemed to be panicking, he said something like, "That's alright, that's alright." The Police officer, by the car, drove after those two men, and the policeman next to GORMAN told us we could go. We all walked to the taxi office in Norfolk Street, where I believe we took a taxi back to Mark's house where I stayed the night. When I saw GORMAN lying on the ground, before he was turned over, I saw his face covered with blood, with a puddle of blood next to his head on the road. When I saw the bouncer on the last occasion coming up Chapel Street from the direction of the taxi office, and stopped nearby us to make his comment, I noticed that he had blood on his face and on his shirt.

T J MEIERHOFER
DATE 030391
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: PC116 FRY

Questions

2008-02-27T14:46:00.002Z

I welcome any questions about anything to do with the inquiry and will do my best to answer them for you. Don't ask me who did it though, you've got to work that out for yourself. There's still alot more posts to go, so please don't do what the King's Lynn Police did and GUESS to early.

Work in progress

2008-02-25T09:34:00.002Z

For those of you who have read everything to date, please be patient as I am trying to post the statements all at once of the group of people who witnessed the chase and assault. It may take a couple of days but rest assured I am working on it

Apri 16th

2008-02-18T13:07:00.002Z

RE: My last interview before been charged with Murder.

2008-02-17T14:02:00.004Z

I have jumped from my 1st to my 4th and last interview. The only reason apart from they take so long to copy, is there is nothing of note in the 2nd and 3rd interviews. I continued to say I only left the club once. I want to get more witness statements posted first
Please bear in mind this is a Murder inquiry and a normal person should presume all avenues of enquiry would be open to investigation. Well you would wouldn’t you? So why weren’t they?
Just try and imagine that your interviewing a suspect for a brutal murder. What sort of questions would you ask? I know if I had been trying to get to the bottom of things it wouldn’t have been like any of my interviews.
Shelley Mitchelson the girl who comes closest to the attack describes one of the assailants as wearing a blue and white hooped rugby shirt. Was I or for that matter ANYONE ever questioned about it at that time? The answer is a resounding NO, NEVER. In any of my 4 taped interviews was I ever asked if I spoke to Sewell immediately prior to the attack, remember Sewell stated the attackers spoke to him and Gorman first. NO NEVER. I was only ever made aware that Rod Moore had in fact been chasing me ten minutes before the end of my final interview. 15 minutes before the end I’m told I’m supposed to have been with Karl. Four months into the investigation, when things were going wrong for the Police and after being released from prison I’m then told I’m supposed to have been with Gary Withers a man I did not even know. I will speak more about Withers when I discuss the blue and white hooped rugby shirt later. I hope you can see how co-operative I was when I’m asked about ID parades. I didn’t have anything to hide. I was also adamant about forensic evidence, something that proved right much later.
Let me clear up the bit about drugs, I had taken both steroids and speed in the past, I was honest and open about it I had not taken speed for over 4 months and I had not taken steriods for more like 18 months. My blood was taken when I was 1st arrested, I presume to see whether I had infact taken any. The results were negative for all drugs and negative for alcohol. I will post results later.

My 4th and final interview

2008-02-17T10:31:00.005Z

MICHAEL ANDREW TEAL
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 29 13011962
OCCUPATION: LORRY DRIVER
Who states: - This statement consisting of pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED:
(SIGNED)
PERSON INTERVIEWED: PLACE OF INTERVIEW: DATE OF INTERVIEW: TIME COMMENCED: 1 TAPE REFERENCE NO: MASTER TAPE NO: INTERVIEWING OFFICER(S): OTHER PERSON (S) PRESET:
Michael Andrew TEAL
INTERVIEW ROOM NO. 1
Kings Lynn Police Station
Tuesday 5th March 1991 2.49p.m. TIME CONCLUDED: 3.21p.m.
DA/421/91
Det. Con. FROST Kings Lynn CID
Dt. Sgt. LEES - Hunstanton
Alan Charlton - Solicitor
This interview is being tape recorded, the time is 2.49p.m., on the afternoon of Tuesday the 5th of March 1991, the interview is taking place in Interview Room No. 1 at King's Lynn Police Station. I am Detective Constable FROST of King's Lynn C.I.D. Also present. Detective Sergeant LEES and I'm stationed at Hunstanton.
Michael Andrew TEAL, born 13.1.1962, 37 George Street, King's Lynn.
Alan CHARLTON, Solicitor.
At the conclusion of this interview you will be handed a notice that explains that will happen to the tapes, do you understand that?
R:
Yes.
Q:
O.k., I have to tell you that you do not have to say anything unless you wish to do so but what you say may be given in evidence, do you understand that Michael?
R.
Yes.
Q:
Do you understand that you are still under arrest on suspicion of murder?
R:
Yes (clears throat), yes.
Q:
Thank you, obviously you have had an opportunity to speak to your Solicitor who is present, here goes, several things we want to ask you Michael, o.k., about this allegation, we've, in the past interviews we've gone through various thins together, o.k.?
First of all, can you tell me are you left handed or right handed?
R:
Right handed.
1.28
Q:
You're right handed? o.k. Now I know we've been through it before, bear with us, we want to go through certain aspects again, o.k.?
R:
Yes.
Q:
Now... we all know about the incident at the top of the stairs, o.k.? Where, we'll mention it that you headbutted SEWELL, yes?
R:
Yes.
Q:
What did you do immediately after that incident?
2.01
R:
I went back downstairs.....
Q:
Right if we take it nice and slowly.... you went back downstairs?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
O.k., who was at the top of the stairs that you can remember when you headbutted SEWELL?
2.14
R,
Rod MOORE....
Q:
Yes,
R:
I'm not sure about everyone else.
Q:
O.k., well......
R:
There was people there but, you know, I can't remember.
Q:
What did Rod MOORE do?
R:
He tried to restrain me, he tried.. he grabbed hold of me I think.
2.30
Q:
When you went down the stairs, Mickey, what did he do?
R:
I don't know.
Q:
You don't know?
R:
Presumably followed me, I'm not sure.
0:
So you go down the stairs, what did you do then?
R:
I went into the Cellar Bar,
Q:
Yeah,
2.45
R:
I think I might have wiped my head with something....
Q:
Yes.
R:
Rod MOORE must have come in then because he give me a bottle of beer or give me a drink.... erm, as I was leaving he give me some money.
Q:
Right if you just hold it there. Do you remember who you spoke to inside the Cellar Bar at that stage?
3.09
R:
No.
Q:
Where abouts exactly where you?
R:
In front of the bar, I think.
3.16
Q:
Cos the bars fairly long in the Cellar Bar, so was it on the right hand side almost down the right.......
R:
.... Side, this end, in front of it.
Q:
So, what, you're talking about the entrance door.....
R:
To the door end.
Q:
To the door end? So you're saying there’s Rod, because he bought you... did he buy you a drink, or did he give you a drink, or....?
3.30
R:
He give me a drink.
Q:
And do you know where he got that drink from?
R:
No, the bar I think
Q:
O.k., you're certain you're saying that Rod was there? You say you wiped yourself with something?
R:
I think I did.
3.44
Q:
Do you know what?
R:
I don't know what it was, I think I put something to my head or it might have just been my hand, but I'm sure I either wiped it with something or wiped it with my hand.
Q:
You say you might have wiped it with something, where would you have got that something from?
R:
Off the bar probably, I don't know.
Q:
Can you recollect anybody giving you some ice, does that mean anything to you?
4.00
R:
No. .
(mumbles)
Q:
It’s been suggested that somebody gave you someone of the barmaids gave you some ice....
R:
Was it in a cloth or summit?
Q:
Yeah.
R:
If it might... I don't know if it had ice in it then, but maybe a cloth.
Q:
Can you remember.....?
4.15
R:
No, I remember get.... you know, like I say either wiping my hand, my head with my hand or with a cloth, I can't really remember now.
Q:
What sort of state were you in at that stage?.... I mean, I not talking.. I'm talking about, er, injuries, blood, that sort of thing?
4.32
R:
There was a lot of blood.
Q:
Where?
R:
Flowing down my face and into my mouth, erm, all on my shirt.
Q:
Whose blood would that have been?
R:
Mine.
4.44
Q.
It was your blood?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Then you came down the stairs after the assault on SEWELL,....were you bleeding?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Was it going into your mouth then?
R:
Yeah.
5.00
Q:
O.k. Right, so we're in the bar, you and Rod, you can't remember who else?
R:
Hayley GARRIGAN was in the bar.
Q:
There was she?
R:
I don't know.
Q:
You don't know where she was?
5.15
R:
She was in there though.
Q:
Was she by herself?
R:
I think so, yeah.
Q:
O.k. You then left, did you?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
How long were you in the bar for, coming down after the assault on SEWELL; to leaving?
R:
Couple of minutes.
5.34
Q:
Couple of minutes, that's all?
R:
Yeah, I told you, not very long at all.
Q:
No longer than...
R:
I said no longer than five minutes, I don't believe it was longer than five minutes.
5.43
Q:
O.k. then, what did you do then?
R:
I went upstairs.
Q:
With?
R:
Hayley.
Q:
Right, if you just take it back a bit. How did you come to be with Hayley?
5.59
R:
I'd been talking to her prior to this incident, I think she might have been left up there by herself, erm, she's a mate of mine, she's a mate of my wife’s.
Q:
So what was the reas, so what was the reason for you going leaving the Cellar Bar with Hayley?
6.15
R:
I was just going home with her.
Q:
Where'd she live?
R:
She lives at Tennyson Avenue, not going home to her house, but going out with her, I was either going to walk her home or get her a taxi.
Q:
Did she mention anything about that at all to you?
6.32
R:
Can't remember.
Q:
You can't remember?
R:
No.
Q:
O.k.
R:
I've done it before, you know what I mean.
Q:
Right, take us then from leaving the Cellar Bar, right, and if there's anything I want to ask, I'll stop you.
6.46
R:
As I remember, I left with Hayley, erm, I got maybe ten... I can't remember if Rod MOORE was following me or summit, but I'd got about ten yards twenty yards away from the steps and Rory came along.... Rory I told you about yesterday.
7.04
Q:
This is the Bouncer?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Was that the first time you'd seen Rory?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
So, you're talking about......
R:
... it was the first and only time I saw him that night.
Q:
.... ten yards?
R:
Ten, twenty yards, not far from the top of the steps....
Q:
Not far from....
R:
.... towards the Market Place.
7.19
Q:
I see did you speak to Rory?
R:
In passing....can't remember what I said, he said summit about...he calls everybody 'bruver', he might have said something...'alright bruver?' or something, I don't know.
7.32
Q:
O.k., so you carry on, where's Hayley now?
R:
Probably a yard or so behind, I don't know or with me....jus...
Q:
A yard or so behind?
7.44
R:
Well maybe walking a bit quicker than her....
Q:
Alright then, carry on from there.
R:
And I can't remember if Rod MOORE said summit to me... he must have been there cos I mean, I think he said something to me, I can't remember what.
Q;
So...it... by now, you're, you're well outside from the Cellar Bar, you're walking towards.........
8.04
R: Market Place...
Q:
....Tuesday Market Place you haven't reached the Tuesday Market Place?
R:
No.
Q:
O.k.
R:
And I was walking, I probably got onto the Market Place, maybe thirty yards onto it, I'm not sure, and I was walking diagonally to where the
Lloyds Bank is.....
Q:
Here...
R:
Err; I saw one of the lads that was with SEWELL and GORGAN, GORMAN, whatever his name is...walking towards the Maids from Lloyds Bank cash machine....
8.39
Q:
So here you were walking from the direction of Lloyds cash machine, towards the Maids was there.....
R:
As far I remember, yeah.
8.45
Q:
Was he in f.....err, it's difficult to explain, isn't it.... so you're coming at... towards an arrow are you?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
And where would that arrow point to, so you know, if he's coming one way.....
R:
...so if Lloyds Bank is there...
Q:
Yeah.
R:
....and the Maids is that way as I'm walking that way, he was walking that way.
9.04
Q:
So where was he heading towards?
That would be the easiest way.
R:
To the Dukes....
Q:
Towards the Dukes?
R:
.....down that way, yeah, as far as I remember he was.
Q:
Where was Hayley at this stage?
R:
Some way behind me, I think.
Q:
How far behind?
9.15
I don't know.
Q:
Where abouts was Rod?
R:
I don't know, I see Rod after I left the... entered the Market Place if you know what I mean where he said something to me while I was walking, I didn't....
Q:
He said something to you?
R:
I think he did.
Q:
Any idea what?
9.30
R:
Erm......can't really; I can't be precise about what he said.
Q:
Is there something that you think he said?
R:
Well....
Q:
Are you saying that you can't be precise?
R:
Well, yeah, I mean like I think he said a lot of things but I wouldn't want to say them in case you think that I'm saying he did say that and he didn't.
Q:
Well, how...how can I say, I mean obviously we'd like to know what he said, and if something you think he said.
R:
Rod MOORE said something to me and I think he would be perhaps the best person to ask about what he said.
10.05
Q:
Yeah... Rod has been interviewed, and he's given his account, err....
R:
Well, if he's been clear on what he said, I'm not going to be any clearer.
10.15
Q:
Yeah, but we just wanted to find if what you're saying is the same as what he's saying, you know.
R:
I can't remember what he said.
Q:
You can't remember?
Q:
O.k., so Hayley’s how far back at this stage, if we go back to....?
R:
When I lef...when I left Hayley, I don't know where she was, I didn't even look to see where she was.
10.33
Q:
O.k., so what did you do then?
R:
I spoke this lad as far as I can remember, he said something to me first I can't remember what it was, I asked him where SEWELL was, he said he'd gone home, I said, 'where was home?', he said...I don't know whether he said a road off Columbia Way, some road off Columbia Way, and then I started running.
10.58
Q:
So where exactly did you meet this lad? Are we talking about the lad who’d walked, just walked, it was SEWELL's mate who'd just walked from Lloyds Bank, where exactly did you meet him?
R:
About Lloyds Bank, somewhere there.
Q:
Hang on let me get this right, you say Lloyds we're not referring at all to Barclays Bank? Because Barclays Bank.....
R:
I don't know where about Barclays Bank is... 11.18
Q: That's right we were talking about Lloyds Bank, that’s fair enough, just clear that up.
R:
He was somewhere near.... somewhere Lloyds Bank.
Q:
Somewhere near Lloyds Bank?
R: Yeah.
Q:
Did he has been as far as the High Street?
11.30
R:
Where's the High Street, what where McDonalds and that is?
Q:
Yeah.
R:
No.
Q:
No, so you hadn't entered that part of it?
R:
No.
Q:
So what did you do then?
11.39
R:
Like I said earlier, I ran down the back of Lloyds Bank, between Lloyds Bank and Marks & Spencer’s, got to the end of the road and I turned left towards the Lattice House.
11.48
0:
Did you see anyone on that route?
R:
No, I don't know, I can't remember.
Q:
So what, going back.....
R:
There might have been somebody there, I can't remember.
Q:
Yeah, o.k., but what you're telling me, that from time of the assault on SEWELL at the top of the stairs of the Cellar Bar, until, what, correct me if I'm wrong, cos you then come straight back down, straight into the Cellar Bar, where you see Rod MOORE, Rod, sorry. Rod MOORE, he somehow gets you a drink, yes?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
You see Hayley GARRIGAN, yes?
You then leave the Cellar Bar with Hayley GARRIGAN, and that time there was no more than five minutes from the time coming down the stairs into the Cellar Bar and leaving the Cellar Bar?
12.40
R:
I don't believe it was longer than five minutes.
Q:
I mean something that might help, what did you have to drink in there?
R:
I think it was a Lager, let me just help you a little bit more, my opinion is that it was no longer than five minutes, I said that from the very outset of all of the interviews, Hayley GARRIGAN, Rod MOORE, any of the bar staff might be able to help you there, alright on time, but as my opinion as I recall it was a very short distance of time, which I said by five minutes meaning five minutes I could judge, because any longer than that would have been quite a long time. I can't think of anything else I did in there over, then take a few mouthfuls of beer, get paid and I left, and as far as I recall it was less than five minutes.
13.21
Q: Do you remember what you and Rod were talking about?
R:
No, in fact if we was talking about anything it would have been something very brief, I certainly didn't stop and have conversation with anybody.
Q:
No, because you weren't in there long enough?
R:
No I don't believe I was in there long enough.
Q:
To have a proper conversation?
R:
To have a proper conversation, no.
13.40
Q:
Did you have a proper conversation with Hayley at that time?
R:
No, I don't believe so.
Q:
And you didn't go in any, in any other part of that bar or the Club, rather than what you described to us?
R:
I don't believe I did, no.
13.56
Q:
O.k......
Q
When you came down the stairs after the incident, what would, who would your mood then?
Were you angry?
R:
A little bit annoyed, I expect.
Q:
Yeah, yeah... did you boast to anybody that you'd just done something?
R;
Not as far as I remember.
Q:
You can't remember doing anything like that?
R:
Nar, I wouldn't boast about, I don't believe I would, and I don't believe I did.
Q:
No.
1426
R:
As I said to you all along, my, for me, the best thing for me that you can do is ask other people, I said that all the time, alright, everything’s been rather vague for me, alright, I've not been able to remember my state of mind, what I was thinking, what I was... and that's why I've looked for you to do that for me, I’m not in a position to ask people you are alright?

14.49
Q:
That is being done, I assure you of that that is being done.
Q:
What we're doing now is just trying to corroborate what you were saying, trying to help you (inaudible - talking across each other)
R:
I mean, I'm not trying to hide anything from anybody, I've asked you on a number of occasions to check with other people on times and what I've said and that, cos, I int trying to say I've said this, I've said that, I've looked to you to look at other people and ask them to do it for me.....
Q:
And that is being done; I'll tell you that now.
Q;
Y, you're obviously ... th...there must be a stage that you can't remember things is it? From what you're saying because you're asking us to find out. .
15.21
R:
It’s not a case of can't remember things, you don't want me to say things that I'm not too sure about, do you or anything like that......?
Q:
No no no....no-ones asked you to say that....
R:
......I'm trying to say, I'm trying to say what I can remember, and I've give you every name I can ever remember, hoping that they can just give that little bit more for your picture, because the pictures going help me in the long run, nobody else, alright.
15.41
Q:
No, I think there's about fifty odd people been seen up to yet, you know, we’re just... trying to get the whole picture....
R:
I know what you're doing, alright, but for me it’s got to be done a little bit better.
Q:
Well there's hell and all people, there's about forty of our blokes working on it at the moment, and that's being done as quickly as possibly can and all this new information keep on coming all the time which is why we, you know.....keep...
Q:
Coming back to spinks here...
Q:
.... see...
R:
I don't mind, I don't mind honestly, but I, you know, if I can't remember what I was feeling or, how heavy I was breathing, it's not because I don't want to remember, it's I can't remember alright?
16.13
Q:
You know Carl SxxxxxxN?
R:
Yeah
Q:
How well do you know Carl?
R:
Well.
Q:
Good mates?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
So, you would know if Carl SxxxxxxN was about, perhaps?
R:
I know he was about, I've told you he was about.
Q:
Alright, let’s go through where Carl was.
16.31

I know we keep harping back to this assault, when you were assaulting SEWELL, did you see Carl SxxxxxxN?
R:
No.
Q:
When you come down the stairs, did you see Carl SxxxxxxN?
R:
Not as I can remember, no.
Q:
When you went into the Cellar Bar, was Carl SxxxxxxN there?
R:
Can't remember... can't remember seeing him, all I can remember of Carl SxxxxxxN, and I've already told you is, he came over to me what I was speaking to Hayley GARRIGAN, and that is the only time we spoke I think in the whole evening.
17.00
Q:
At what point was that?
R:
That was after I'd ejected GORMAN...
Q:
Yes
R:
And coming back in I was speaking to Hayley GARRIGAN.
Q:
And this was before the incident with SEWELL?
R:
This was before the incident with SEWELL, yeah.
Q:
So just recap, what did Carl say to you?
R:
He came over and said there’s summit about trouble outside, I can't remember what he said, I know he said summit about trouble and GORMAN outside,
Q:
Is that the last time you saw Carl SxxxxxxN?
R:
That’s the only time I can remember seeing him or having any conversation with him.
Q:
Can you remember what Carl was wearing?
R:
He might have had summit red on... that's all I can remember, I've already thought about that, I think he may have had either a red jumper or red sweatshirt, I can't remember what his trousers were or anything like that, for some reason I've got red in my mind.
17.47
Q:
Was he with anyone?
R:
When he came over to me he weren't with anybody.
Q:
So, what I'm trying to think, was he part of a group of people or anything like that?
R:
Not when I saw him, but saying that, his mate Fez was in there, so pres.... I can't remember seeing them in the Cellar Bar during the evening.
18.07

Q:
Did you see Fez from the time of throwing GORMAN out to the rest of the evening, the rest of the morning?
R:
I saw Fez when after throwing GORMAN out, Carl SxxxxxxN came to me and said there's trouble outside.....
Q:
Yes.
R:
....I came outside and I think Fez was near the bottom of the stairs.
Q:
Doing what?
R:
Doing nothing. There was a lot of people on the stairs.
Q:
When you, when you came back down the stairs after the assault on SEWELL, o.k., we've gone through that I know, but I'm just trying to piece every bit together, how many people do you th.... or what was the stairway like, regarding people on it.
18.46
R:
When I first came out there was a lot of people on the stairs, after the incident with SEWELL, the stairs were perhaps were empty or maybe one or two people coming out, by then the Club, as far as I can remember the Club was empty or maybe a few people milling about.
Q:
So, err, that wasn't packed?
R:
No, not after, not when I went back down the stairs I don't believe it was, no.
Q:
What about when you went up the stairs, with the... and you spoke to SEWELL?
R:
When I, yeah, that seemed to be quite busy then, there was a lot of people there.
19.18
Q:
When you say busy, how would you describe.......
(inaudible talking across each other)
R:
... stairs, and it’s hard to say, but the stairs would seem like they were full or people trying to get up and leave.
Q:
Did you have to pull people back or push people to one side to go up the stairs, something like that?
R:
When I was up the St.... maybe there was other people on the stairs, when I had the thing with SEWELL, me and him were face to face and there might have been people around me, I didn't have to push anybody to get to SEWELL, but the stairs had been full.
19.49
Q:
Yeah, I think Mr FROST and Mr NEWTON told you yesterday that er, certain persons had identified you attacking Mr GORMAN, er, well that same person has also identified Mr SxxxxxxN as one of the other people.... would that be...
R:
Carl SxxxxxxN was not with me ever....
Q:
Last night....
R:
Not last night.
Q:
(Inaudible conversations crossing again) ...one at the moment.
20.13
R:
Carl SxxxxxxN was not with me, after he spoke to me and said there was trouble; I had no contact with him whatsoever.
Q:
So as far as you were concerned there’s no way... this person (inaudible)
R:
There's no way I was with Carl SxxxxxxN.
Q:
At all.
R:
At all.
(Pause)
Q:
I think, obviously you know exactly, I mean we've told you things, the position, I mean it doesn’t need me to explain that, I'm sure you can rough it out for yourself I mean we've obviously tried together to piece together as far as you’re concerned, everything you can tell us with regards to your movements, who you saw.....
R:
I can only be sure of my movements.
Q:
...at that time.
R:
....I can’t be sure of anybody else’s, Carl SxxxxxxN was not with me, ever that evening, he came up to me once and spoke to me and that was it.
21.13
Q:
Can we recap something up, I'm sorry haven't been on any of the interviews so I don't know, you know when you run round, er down by the Bank and then turned left to go towards the Lattice House, did you see Mr GORMAN on the road there?
R:
What I saw was a crowd of people around him, I didn't see him face, I saw the clothes that I recognised were his, I saw his brightly coloured Rugby shirt on, a Police car, and a Policeman with him.
Q:
And did you say anything at that particular stage.
R:
I said something about I was looking for his mate.
21.48
Q:
And you were looking for his mate for what reason?
R:
Just, well at the time, I didn't know he'd been cut like I had, I'd been cut and I and I was going after him.
Q:
What to see how he was or to give him some more?
R:
Well, I would of... whatever came.
Q:
Yeah.
22.06

R:
But when I was running I was by myself there was nobody with me.
Q:
And I think at some stage you could have by, by Rod weren't you?
R:
I think the first time I saw Rod after leaving the Club he was in a Police car and Mick (inaudible).
Q:
Can you recall seeing Rod at the time where Mr GORMAN was lying on the ground with the Policeman there?
R:
No.
Q:
You can't recall seeing there at the time?
22.29
R:
He wasn't th...no, no I never saw him.
Q:
You never saw him there. So the first time you saw him was when....
R:
In the Police car.
Q:
.....they stopped in the Police car, yeah. Can you recall seeing MR WILLIAMSON anywhere?
R:
I'm not sure if he was with Rod.
Q:
This is Neil?
R:
Neil WILLIAMSON.
Q:
Neil WILLIAMSON....
R:
I think he might have been with Rod, I... I don' t know, and I can remember seeing Rod, cos he spoke to me, and whether Neil WILLIAMSON was with him in the Police car, I don't know.
22.58
Q:
When you saw Mr GORMAN laying on the floor, did you recognise him at all?
R:
Yeah.
Q:
You did?
Q:
Through his clothes, you mean?
R:
Yeah, I recognised his clothes.
Q:
Yeah, what was your, what was your reaction, what did you think?
R:
I didn't think anything; I certainly didn't know what had happened to him.
Q:
Did you see any blood about there?
R:
No, no
Q:
You didn't see any blood about there?

R: No, no.
(Pause)
23.32
Q;
I think Mr FROST and Mr NEWTON have already explained about this witness who (inaudible) seen you, and what was your reaction to that, how did you, what do you say about that?
R:
That's a lie.
Q:
That's a lie?
R:
Yeah, and like I was saying earlier, I can't, if you'll know exactly the details, as I understood it yesterday, a witness said he saw me and you described another, somebody who I said I thought was Rod MOORE remember that?
Q:
Yes.
R:
With another chasing him, they heard noises but didn't see anything, and that same person said he saw me run back and with Rod MOORE, by the s...he said the two same people come back and I said something, that is a lie alright, Rod MOORE, when I run that person. Rod MOORE must have been in the Police car then, cos as I ran by that person, I was by myself, so just look at that as well because that is where you can see that they're lying, anybody said that they saw me run by the body with another person who they described as Rod MOORE is lying again because Rod MOORE was already in the Police car.
2434
Q:
No, I think what, what’s happened, run, you know when you ran the car park, in between the Banks, and then turned left. Rod MOORE was running behind you then, up towards the Lattice House where the body was and you apparently stopped there and Rod was still some way behind you then, and you carried on and then Rod carried on behind you... (Inaudible - crossed conversations)
R:
Well I weren't aware of Rod or anywhere near him.
Q:
You weren't?
R:
No.
25.00
Q: (inaudible -crossed conversation)
R:
Like I say, the first time I saw Rod MOORE was he was in front of me or coming alongside me in the Police car.
Q:
And that’s the first time you recall seeing him?
R:
That’s the only time I saw him.
Q:
You weren't aware, you weren’t aware that he was behind you at any stage?
R:
NO.
Q:
Not even on the Tuesday Market Place?
R:
No.
Q:
You didn't speak to him on the Tuesday Market Place?
25.19
R:
He said something to me as I left with Hayley...
Q:
Yeah.
R:
... and that’s the only time I saw him or spoke to him.
Q:
When you left the Club, were you in an angry mood?
R:
It’s hard to say, I must have been.
Q:
Right from the, from the, you know, interviews I've had, it would appear that you, you were not in a very good mood and you were out to try and find this bloke, would that be right?
25.49
R:
Well I don't know how anybody can say I was angry, you know what I mean, by, by my actions or what, you know, as I remember it I was just getting away doing my own thing, I weren't screaming I'm going to kill someone or whatever, I just went off, at first with Hayley, and then I took it into my head I was going to go and see the bloke......I didn't even know he'd been injured cos all the blood that was about I thought was mine.
26.17
Q:
You're obviously a big bloke, and a trainer, do you take any drugs at all?
R:
No.
Q:
None, none, you know, steroids, anything like that?
R:
I have done.
Q:
You have done.
Do you take any other sort of drugs, any Speed or anything like that.....?
R:
No, no.
Q:
....you don't, you don't not at all.
R:
I have done, but don't now.
Q:
You didn't take any on that night in question?
R:
No.
26.35
Q:
Were you drunk?
No.
Q:
How much do you think you had to drink that evening?
R:
Couple of pints, I remember, I had a pint of Lager Shandy when I first got there.
Q:
Which was about what time that was erm....?
R:
About half past eight.
Q:
Yeah.
R:
I remember having a couple or, couple of these beers I never had before, "Sol" or something call them, and a Southern Comfort I think and Coke, I was far from drunk.
27.16
Q:
And as far as you were concerned you only the left the Club on one occasion?
R:
On one occasion, that was the only time I left, yeah.
Q:
Cos you know what the inference is of course... that...
(Conversations crossed)
R:
Yeah I heard it now, you told me yesterday.
Q:
.... We have to it to you.
R:
And like I told you yesterday, anybody that said they see me doing other than what I did, what I've told you I did was lying.
27.38
Q:
Is that, you left the Club after the assault on SEWELL, you went, and lets be (?) about this, I mean this is what the inference is that you then Murdered GORMAN, with other people, come back to the Club, and then left with Hayley.
27.58
R:
All I can say to you is what I've told you already and like I said yesterday anybody that said they see me other, doing other than what I've told you, is lying and for whatever reason, I don't know, and like I said to you at the very onset, whatever happened to him happened quickly, alright, I said that before I knew any of this had gone on, and like I said to the Solicitor before the tape recording, perhaps the people that were around the body were the people that did the offence, aw, I don't know, I'm trying to look...help you....
Q:
Well like I said....
R:
Like I said, you, you came to, when I said about erm, Eamon PAYNE yesterday, and you said, oh he went to make a phone call and it had to go to Norwich, and it had to be all this, can you remember all that yesterday?
Q:
That’s right, yeah.
R:Eamon PAYNE wasn't there when the Police car was there, so I've, like I've already said, perhaps the Police car stumbled on what had happened, I don't believe that was a, a call that went to Norwich and went somewhere else and then went wherever and it come to him, perhaps he stumbled on that, like I said I think it all happened very quickly and the people that were around that body should be bloody questioned a little bit, you know, more than they have done probably, and certainly the people that said that they saw me running anywhere near the Lattice, chasing him, have got to be looked at.....I can't be more open than I am, I've sat in that cell all yesterday thinking should I go tell him to, should I go tell him to see the people that were at the body, because, I know it wasn't me, alright, I can't do your job for you, you've got to go do it, and certainly anybody that said they see me doing other than what I said, is lying..(Pause)... I told you how quickly I think it must have happened, and for me it’s either people that were at the scene at the time when the Policeman stumbled along em, because like your Sergeant NEWTON said yesterday, why should anybody name me?, why should anybody name me? cos they've got to be covering something, they've got to be covering somebody, that's why they should name me, perhaps they was at the scene and they were the people that did it.
29.48 3
Q: Well you're hardly the sort of bloke they would name though, Mickey...
R:
When people are on a bloody murder charge, they'll do anything, won't they?
For God's sake, fuckin, don't just sit back there smirking, get out there and do your job, that's what’s pissing me off.
Q:
The jobs being done.
R:
It’s obviously not being done because .I've been here fucking four days now, I don't mind, I'll stay here every day because I know someone’s out there looking but by the time I get charged, and I think well that's all you, you've stopped Iooking that’s the day I'm going to start getting pissed off, alright while you’re out there looking, I'm happy, I might not seem happy, but I am happy but the day you slap a charge on me and there’s someone out that whose done that I won't be fuckin happy.
30.30
Q:
Can you think of anything eIse?
R:
Not at this stage, no.
Q:
We've about covered all we want....
Q:
We want to talk about, er, an Identification Parade, now, do you want to speak to your Solicitor first about this?
Solicitor:
Do you want to explain what you're going to do first, then if need be, we'll talk, or do you want to talk now, it’s up to you?
30.50
R:
For me, I don't care what Parades I go on, honestly, I've got nothing to hide I'll go on any sort of Parade you want, I mean if you think it’s unwise that I should, I'll listen to you, but I mean for me, you know I'll do whatever anybody asks.
31.06
Q:
There's basic questions I'll have to ask you initially, like are you willing to attend an Identification Parade.... and then ask you who you would like to attend that parade, in other words, your Solicitor, o.k., and then we get you to sign this, which basically says you are prepared to attend.
Solicitor:
If you don't, basically, the other thing is you don't agree to an Identification Parade, I suspect then the Police authorities would be looking to think about a different form of Identification...which is....
R:
I put it... I don't care what....
Solicitor:
...which is, sorry, listen to me for a moment, which is less likely to be satisfactory? Because it will be you and you alone that somebody will be ask to look at.
R:
Like I said I'll go on any sort of parade if it helps.
Q:
I'll also ask you are you intending to (?) identification?
R:
Yes I will.
Q:
Do you want to have a few minutes or....? Solicitor:
Yes, I think we better.
R:
O.k.
Solicitor:
Just a few minutes.
Q:
Right, we'll conclude this......
Q:
O.k. as I say, conclude the interview
Q:
Yeah, we'll conclude this interview.
Is there anything you wish to clarify or add with regards to what’s been said in this interview?
R:
No.
Q:
Do you wish to make a written statement?
32.14
R:
No.
Q:
Right I shall serve you with a Notice that explains to you what will happen to the tapes, this interview is now going to be concluded, and the time is now 3.21p.m.

2 Honest Coppers PC Browne & Sergeant Seaman

2008-02-13T15:03:00.005Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: GRAHAM CLIVE BROWNE
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 40 05051950
OCCUPATION: POLICE CONSTABLE: 254
Who states: - This statement consisting of 3 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 020391

I am Police Constable 254 Graham Clive BROWNE, of the Norfolk Constabulary stationed at Kings Lynn.
On the morning of the 2nd March, 1991, I was on routine patrol in a police vehicle with Sgt K. SEAMAN at 0124 we had just turned from Norfolk Street into Chapel Street, Kings Lynn. We then received a message via the radio to the effect that a person was laying outside the Lattice House on the road. This location was only some 100 yards away from us and we were travelling towards it. I could see on the pavement a gathering of 3 or 4 persons close to vehicles entrance to Kings Court the council offices and immediately opposite the Lattice House. I drove up to these people as I come close I saw a male person, laying face down on the pavement with his head turned to the left, facing Kings Court, he was wearing a red and white rugby shirt, blue denim jeans and brown suede shoes. There was a considerable amount of blood about his face and head also on the pavement underneath his head, also a pool of blood in the road approximately 2' from his head. I checked for a pulse but could find none, but I could see him breathing with difficulty, coughing and gurgling noises were coming from his mouth. It was ascertained from these persons standing round that nobody knew what had happened or knew who he was but they had called an ambulance. A taxi then arrived a woman got out and called to one of the men to leave, which he did. Almost immediately a man who I know to be Michael TEAL came running from behind us he stopped and said "Oh there’s one of them where’s his fucking mate gone? He then ran off in the direction of St. Nicholas Street, he was wearing a white shirt and black trousers, the shirt was covered in splashes of blood and he had blood on his face, also with him was Rodney MOORE. Who was dressed in a white shirt and black trousers with blood on his shirt he stopped and said " It’s nothing to do with him I’m going after him" and ran off, I ran to the Police car and chased after them, I stopped and picked up MOORE outside the Labour Party Office and drove off along St. Nicholas Street towards St. Anne’s Fort. I caught up with TEAL outside the Navel Reserve Public House. I said to TEAL, "Look I need to know what’s going on you have got blood all over you and there’s a man back there very seriously injured." MOORE; replied " It’s got nothing to do with him look he's got a cut on his head." I looked and saw a small cut on his forehead in my opinion not enough to give that amount of blood on his shirt. TEAL said "I'm off after his mate." At this time the owner of the Cellar Bar Neil WILLIAMSON arrived at the Naval reserve. I said I think it would be far better if you all went back to the Cellar Bar, I'll come and see you when I've got the man off to hospital, I need to know what happened." TEAL said "Fuck off I'm going home I'm not going back there." He then ran off along St. Ann’s Street, towards the junction with John Kennedy road, during the time involved with TEAL and MOORE I gained the impression that TEAL was on edge and agitated and very satisfied over events. I returned to the scene and liaised with Sgt SEAMAN at 04 0O hours I made this statement at the scene sitting in the police vehicle
G C BROWNE SIGNED
TIME: 0400 DATE: 020391

I am grateful PC Browne made this statement at 04-00hrs as the events were still fresh in his memory. "Oh there’s one of them where’s his fucking mate gone? Is very similar to what I said in my 1st interview.
" I said something about I'm going to see his mate or something, then when Rod, I think Rod turned up in a police car, then said to them I was going to go home. The police officer must have known me cause he spoke to me by my first name. I didn't really stop to see who it was..."
So when anybody mentions me saying “We’ve had him, we want the other cunt," Apart from the fact I know it was a lie, I then have to ask myself why would anyone say that? The only thing I can come up with is the Police told them I said that.

PC Browne makes another statement on the 15th of March in which he says:
Further to my statement of 2nd March, 1991, I picked up MOORE outside the Labour Party Offices in Chapel Street and continued along St. Anns Street towards St. Anns Fort where we stopped. Whilst at the scene none of the witnesses said anything about identification of assailants. When asked all denied any knowledge of what had happened, stating they had just come across him. When MOORE and TEAL ran up to the scene there was no positive identification of them by anybody at the scene to us.

DATE: 150391

Police Sergeant K Seaman who was with PC Browne made a very similar statement to the 1st one of Browne's I posted. He then makes another in which he states:

I make this statement further to the one made previously dated 2nd March, 1991, concerning the incident in Chapel St.
As previouslv stated, during the incident a man, I now know as the defendant TEAL, came running past, stopped and said, "Oh there's one of them where's his fucking mate gone." There was at that time and in response to that comment various remarks made by the people gathered around. These remarks made reference to the comment of TEAL. I formed the impression then and still believe now that these remarks were an impulsive response to his comments and not based on any prior knowledge of TEAL'S alleged activities.
At no time did anyone point out TEAL (or M00RE) as being responsible based on events that they had earlier witnessed.
K P SEAMAN SIGNED
DATED 190391

I was grateful to the statements made by both Browne and Seaman. Even when things were getting what I would call dirty they stuck to the truth. It just goes to show there are some honest Coppers out there. Thank you.

Jason Colmans Retraction

2008-02-13T15:02:00.003Z

This is the 2nd statement of Jason Colman. In essence what he is saying, no I’ll let you decide. In any case this was made on the 7th March; it is what is called a retraction. What is disgusting is the CPS namely philip charnley relied on his 1st statement for at least 2 weeks after. Therefore misleading the court as they didn’t have a single piece of evidence against us. Their argument was they believed they could persuade Colman to retract the 2nd statement. Let me just mention the bit were he says this,
“When, on Page 6 I heard the man I describe as Micky TEAL say, “We’ve had him, we want the other cunt," I remember something being said, but now I can't remember exactly what was said.”
I know, what he said was a lie but you might think he’s changing his mind out of fear of me or something. Well remember earlier when I said I was grateful to 2 policemen. I will post their statements next to show what they said I said. You see the “We’ve had him, we want the other cunt," sounds to me like those words were put in Colman’s mouth by the “angry detective” who it transpires was Inspector langham-fitt, (the copper that said I would be charged regardless of the identity parades) He made this statement to two senior police officers and the prosecutor namely Superintendant Fraser, Chief Inspector Coyle and philip charnley. So even at this early stage they were made aware that the conduct of one of their officers had been brought into question. Did they care? Of course not. Like I said earlier charnley chose not to disclose this statement to the court and it only came to light when Colman himself read in the paper the prosecution was still using his original statement. He then went to a defence Solicitor and informed him of the retraction.

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: JASON SIMON COLMAN
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 20 03111970
OCCUPATION: TECHNICIAN
Who states: This statement consisting of 5 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 070391 J COLMAN (SIGNED)
Following an incident in St. Nicholas Street, King's Lynn, early hours last Saturday morning, when three men pursuing another man run past me round the comer up to the Lattice House pub, I made a statement to the police. Since that time I have been on three identification parades. Tonight, Thursday, 7th March, 1991, I have voluntarily visited King's Lynn Police Station because I am deeply concerned and upset about things I have said in my original statement. Since witnessing events that night I have been deeply upset and anxious, unable to sleep or eat properly. My worry and anxiety was worse after the identification parades because I was really frightened having to face the people on the line up, and they saw me. This was made worse by having to give my name and address in front of them, and having to say a number afterwards. My life has been in turmoil since, especially as I have had to sit an examination, my City & Guilds, Part 3, yesterday and I know I have made a right mess of that.
Some things in my original statement are not right and I've got to put the record straight. I named two of the men who ran past me as Carl SXXXXXXN and Micky TEAL. This is not correct. I could not name the people who I saw. It's no good me saying it was SXXXXXX and TEAL because I am unable to say who it was. It could have been then, it could well have not been them, I just didn't see enough of them to say. I feel even worse because someone has been killed, and I've named SXXXXXX and TEAL and I can't be sure that it was them I saw. I just cannot say either way with any real belief. The pressure on me has just built up over the last few days, but this is how I think and feel now. When I was first interviewed by the police on the Sunday afternoon, by two CID men in King's Lynn Police Station, I told them all that I knew about what happened, but not the names, because I did not know who they were. These two CID men were "as nice as pie" although I felt shaken and nervous. I've got to say, in all honesty, that I knew that the man who had been attacked had died. On that Sunday the police had come to me, I hadn't come forward, but on the night, while we stood with the dead man. Mark did ask the policeman if he wanted our names and addresses. I can't remember if that policeman asked me if I had witnessed what had happened, or not. When I spoke with the two CID men at the police station, and before I made a statement, they left the room. Another person without a uniform came in, slammed the door and appeared to be slightly angry. He asked me if I knew the people who ran by me. I said, "No." He asked me again, he asked me two to three times and in one sentence he said, "Do you know the people who ran by?" His tone and manner upset me, but he didn't threaten me in any way. He was being more forceful, I suppose because he thought I knew the names of the 2 people. I didn’t know the people. He said either, “Was it" or "It was" the name "Carl SXXXXXX or "Micky TEAL." At this time I was nervous and felt a lot or pressure over me and said "Yes." I said this to relieve the pressure I felt. I can't remember if he said anything else. He left the room and seconds later, one or two of the original CID men came back in. I then talked and made my statement and I put the names in the statement. Rather than relieve the pressure on me by naming SXXXXXX and TEAL, I felt even more pressure, When I came to the police station I wanted to say something to get back to feeling myself again and to put things right. I came to the police station tonight because I just couldn't stand it anymore. At this point tonight, at 8.40 pm, I have been shown a witness statement dated 3rd March, 1991, which I identify as the one made by me to the CID officers. My signature is upon this statement. I have read this statement carefully. Having read my statement, I wish to alter and clarify certain things as I remember now. The man who I have not named as one of the three chasing the man who was assaulted, and I describe as a doorman, I cannot say whether he was a doorman or not. However, the description I give in my original statement I am happy that this is correct to the best of my memory. The other two men I refer to as SXXXXXX and TEAL, I cannot say who, in fact, they were, as I have already stated before. Having read the statement now, I cannot remember points because of the way I have been feeling for the last four or five days. I am happy with the description I have already given of one of them. The points I find difficult to remember now are:
1. Seeing the blood on the shirt of the man who ran by me in St. Nicholas Street.
2. What my friends were wearing.
3. When, on Page 6 I heard the man I describe as Micky TEAL say, “We’ve had him, we want the other cunt," I remember something being said, but now I can't remember exactly what was said.
4. When I refer to a scuffle at 12.45 am in the Cellar Bar, I can't remember Micky TEAL as being the person who took someone out of the Bar.
There are no other points that I have any problems remembering and I am satisfied with the rest of the statement. I feel very sorry for naming names when I didn't know them. I also feel sorry about picking Carl SXXXXXX out on the identification parade. I picked him out because I knew him, not because I could definitely say I saw him in St. Nicholas Street that night. I want to say that I have felt no pressure at all from any other policeman it was just on this one occasion only when I made my original statement. I shouldn't have named those names because I didn't know who those men I saw in St. Nicholas Street were. I feel better now that I have put the record straight, and what I have said now is God's honest truth.
Statement commenced 7.20 pm, completed 10 pm.
DATE: 070391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE: J COLMAN
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: P FRASER K COYLE

A little bit more

2008-02-13T09:26:00.000Z

With the £100 fine came a posting to RAF Marham, a little village in the middle of nowhere. King’s Lynn was about 13 miles away a market town I’d never heard of. Within 3 months I had met the girl that would become my wife, Sally Thomson. I would often stay at Sally’s house at weekends. Usually when I went to work on a Monday morning I would hear stories from my mates about how they got jumped in King’s Lynn on the Saturday night whilst waiting for the bus back to camp. They’d all go into town on the RAF bus get pissed and while they waited for the transport back to base a local gang called the Wildcats would jump them. This was a regular feature on a Saturday night, so I came up with the idea of instead of them getting pissed and then getting jumped. I would go into town with them and they could point the gang out to me and we’d have the fight early on before everyone was too legless to do anything. The evening went very well and none of us ended up with the usual black eyes and sore heads. One nil to me. Unfortunately they scored an equaliser the following week. I was out with my girlfriend and my mate and was jumped by the Wildcats outside the Globe hotel. I don’t know how many there was but we gave a pretty good account of ourselves, he ended up with a broken jaw, I needed stitches in my head. Let the battle commence. I then took it upon myself to seek out the pussy cats usually with a pair of rice flails in hand. Culminating in my first appearance in the Magistrates Court, one of the cats had been following me around the town. He ended up going through the bread shop window opposite Sainsbury’s. I remember the Station Warrant Officer ringing me and saying “if you’ve got anything in your room you shouldn’t have got rid of it”. Out went the trungeon the pick axe handle and of course the Rice Flails, just before the Police van arrived to take me on a journey into town. Along with my £100 fine for carrying an offensive weapon, which I pleaded guilty too, I also got something else that the Police wouldn’t forget a reputation. I wasn’t going to be messed with. Isaac Newton said “for every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction”. Well Isaac Newton hadn’t heard of me. peter newton certainly had the copper investigating the murder, I don’t know if they were related if they were it was Isaac who had all the brains. peter was a member of the Keystone Cops (King’s Lynn) branch. Over the next few years I would be in Crown Court a number of times with a couple of appearances at the Magistrates. With every not guilty verdict I was just making things worse for myself. Because each time the Police would try that bit harder to secure a guilty verdict. Two cases stand out in particular. The first involved a group of RAF Policemen who were playing up at Manhattans. I and another doorman had asked them to leave which they were doing but very slowly they were arguing their case like most people do, then another doorman came up the stairs (he shall remain nameless) he said “either get down the stairs or I’ll knock you down”, one lad in particular kept remonstrating and the next thing he was knocked out cold. There was no need for it but hey it happened. The shock came later when he named me as the assailant. I was hardly going to punch an RAF Policeman, especially when I was still a serving member of the RAF myself. As I wouldn’t name the person responsible I found myself making another Crown Court appearance. Fortunately for me the other doorman went to my Solicitors and said that although he wouldn’t give evidence in my defence he admitted he was responsible for the assault. Three days into my trial this information was conveyed to the Judge “in chambers” and the trial was stopped. The judge made a comment that if the CPS were to continue with the prosecution he wouldn’t be able to hear it. So imagine my surprise when in fact they did continue with the case and low and behold it was the same Judge. It didn’t go down too well with him when after a couple of days it was my turn to give evidence and I reminded him of what he had said at the first trial. He called for an adjournment so he could read the transcripts of the previous trial. After several hours I was proved correct and again he had to stop the trial. The comments he made this time probably prevented the CPS from pursuing the case. I didn’t hear anymore about it.
The next case I was involved in also occurred at Manhattan’s. Let me give you a brief outline. One night a mate came up to me and asked if I could get a £10 wrap of speed for a friend of his. I went and asked someone who I knew took it. He gave it to me and I passed it on to my friend, who I presume passed it on to his friend, I didn’t think anymore of it. Shock horror nearly 3 months later I’m up the club and it’s the 1st time I’d been up there when I wasn’t working and a load of Policeman come up to me and arrest me for supplying drugs. I didn’t know what they were talking about. It soon sank in they are talking about this 1 £10 wrap. I soon find myself in court with about 8 other people. This was in the day when Philip Charnley prosecuted “high profile” cases (not anymore hey Phil). Anyway unbeknown to me and presumably the other 8 the USAF Police were trying to find out where their servicemen were getting drugs from. They set up an operation where they would use agent provocateurs to buy drugs in the club. Hence my arrest for the wrap. We were all found guilty and got varying punishments. I told the others I wouldn’t be appealing, I didn’t want to encourage any of them to as I thought collectively it would spoil my chances. But I did in fact appeal; the case went to Norwich Crown Court some months later. There was a lot of trouble bringing 2 of the Yanks back to England from the States. I was informed that should I lose my appeal, costs would be awarded against me which would run into thousands. Fortunately the Judge conceded that the USAF Policeman although acting in good faith could have been mistaken due to the lighting conditions the overcrowding etc. I won my appeal and the Police got another smack in the face courtesy of yours truly. Are you now beginning to understand why the Police had it in for me?

A little bit of me

2008-02-12T15:21:00.000Z

How did I become charged with murder? Of course some of it will be to do with the night of Friday the 1st of March 1991, but it probably started on the 2nd of September 1974. My 1st day of secondary school. Remember how I said I went to 8 or 9 different schools because of my dad’s job, well this was the day I started at Western Comprehensive School, Grimsby. I was 12 years old and can only remember having had 1 fight up until that time; it was 5 years earlier when I was 7. If I learnt anything at all at that school it was how to fight, or how to lose to be more precise. One name will stay with me forever, Wayne Clarke. Here I was a skinny little 12 year old with a strong Hull accent I soon learnt what it felt like being the odd one out. Wayne Clark didn’t like it that was for sure. The trouble was for the 1st 4 years at that school Wayne always had his older brothers to help him out should I start getting the better of him. Unfortunately for Wayne his brothers were not the sort that would be staying on to do sixth form so he had to do his last year without his minders. I got my revenge at every opportunity not just fighting either, although I did enjoy fighting with him without his brothers sticking the boot in. Wayne’s girlfriend who he’d been seeing for a couple of years asked me to go baby sitting with her. He rang her up and we continued messing around while he was on the phone. You know what they say Wayne? He who laughs last....
My education in fighting continued when I joined the Royal Air Force. My first posting was to RAF Uxbridge home to the Queen’s Colour Squadron RAF Regiment. I was now a skinny little 16 year old working at Headquarters Military Air Traffic Operations, home of the 2 prettiest girls on the camp, who unfortunately for me were both dating Rock Apes. For those that don’t know, Rock Apes is the term used to describe members of the RAF Regiment (the fighting force of the RAF) everyone else in the Air Force are called Penguins So I wasn’t helping myself much when I had a T Shirt printed that declared “Penguins Shit On Rocks”. The T Shirt served as an open invitation to Rock Apes to fight with me and there were plenty who accepted my invitation. The boy friends of the girls I worked with Cathy and Linda certainly did on numerous occasions, usually together at the NAAFI disco. It was at Uxbridge that I had my first run in with the Police not the civil but the military Police. It was here that my attitude towards them changed. I was 17 and had invited a girl who I had gone out with a couple of times to a party at work. She worked in the communications centre which was a small office in the HQ MATO building. It had strict access; a small hatch of 6x6 inches would open when you rang the bell to the door. Anyway I decided to go and see where she was and when the hatch opened I was greeted with a smack in the face from a pole with a hook on the end the kind used to open windows. The hatch was then slammed in my face. I just had time to see who the clever bastard who did it was. Bob or Andy Rae I can’t remember which one now but it was one of a pair of identical twins who at that time boxed for the camp. Unknown to me they were part of a gang on the camp that were extorting money and electrical items ( TVs, Stereos etc) out of young musicians (The Central Band of the Royal Air Force was also based at RAF Uxbridge) I’m not really painting a good picture of the RAF am I? I probably missed my true vocation in life I think I should of gone into advertising because I had a T Shirt printed saying “The End Is Nigh For Bob And Andy” and wore it at every opportunity. I didn’t intend to just get even with them, to me even means equal and they weren’t my equal and I wanted everyone to know it. The fight with one of the twins led to my court martial it probably wouldn’t have gone that far but like I said earlier the SIB (Special Investigations Branch) were already investigating more serious crimes on the camp, involving the twins. I was placed into an RAF detention centre at RAF Northolt. The 2 investigating officers were both in their late 40s and were the RAF equivalent to detectives. They would come and question me not only about the fight but also about the other shit. I had just turned 18 and still remember it very well. If I didn’t give them the answer they wanted they would either throw something at me or slap me around the face. I remember saying to a young RAF policeman while I was crying during the interview that he should try not to end up like these 2. That got me another smack in the mouth. My meals would arrive at the appropriate meal times but I wouldn’t get them till they were stone cold usually they had patches of water on with little bubbles where someone had kindly spat in it. Mmm nice. I’ll tell you how good it was there, someone in the next cell had slashed his wrists thinking it might be his way out not death I mean he would go to hospital. It didn’t happen someone came and stitched him up he was then handcuffed to a radiator. Those 2 weeks were hell on earth for me my parents didn’t even know I was there. If my treatment there wasn’t bad enough it was at my courts martial that gave me a greater insight as to how the Police operate. I was charged and found guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm contrary to section 70(1) of the Air Force Act. I had punched one of the twins and broke his nose. I wasn’t surprised at the guilty verdict I pleaded guilty after all. What was surprising was the sentence; I was fined one hundred pounds. Nobody could believe such a lenient punishment was handed out at a District Courts Martial. It was unheard of; DCMs cost thousands of pounds and involve hundreds if not thousands of man hours to arrange a lot of very senior officers, members of the press are invited so why did I only get what on the face of it seemed like a slap on the wrist? Because the 2 members of the SIB who investigated the assault made statements both dated early January and both went on to talk about things that happened in the bloody February. An impossible thing for them to do. It wasn’t some little error on their part, it was fabrication; I remember my Solicitor Gilbert Blades cross examining one of the Policemen about it and the Policeman dropped all his papers as his hands were shaking that much. I wanted to jump up and scream yes we’ve got ya, of course I didn’t it was a Courts Martial after all. On the 4th of July 1980 I got a hundred pound fine, a criminal record and a very important insight into how the Police operate.
The photos me on my 18th birthday at the Yankee Bar RAF Uxbridge.( butter wouldn't melt).

RE: Hayley Garrigan's Statement

2008-02-09T10:29:00.000Z

Hayley Garrigan was a good friend of mine and gets things pretty much right. She made her statement on the Sunday the day after the murder. Perhaps if she hadn’t been a friend the Police may have took note at what she had to say although I very much doubt it. They wasn’t listening to anything that may have cast doubt over it not been me. She says pretty much the same as the two friends of Gorman. .” I saw Mick TEAL laugh and say something to the man who remained behind, though I don’t know what was said. I would describe this person as being male, white, with a blonde crew cut, and a receding hair line. He was wearing blue jeans and a multicolored rugby shirt. After Mick had spoken to the man, the man smiled at him and got up and walked away.” She goes on to say, “Further to the above when Mick first spoke to the boy on the bench, although I didn’t hear what had been said, I got the impression that it was jokey and friendly and not aggressive.” She describes me as “larking about”.
What’s more her timings are pretty spot on too. After throwing Gorman out she says I returned to her “within a minute” and picked up my drink. She then says, “but no sooner had he done this when someone called him back. I saw Mick leave the club and walk out of the door. After about 5 minutes or so I walked over to the door, and checked that nothing was happening outside. As I looked outside I saw Mick and Rod MOORE one of the other bouncers, just coming down the stairs. I saw that Mick had a cut on his forehead and had a lot of blood on his face, and on the front of his shirt. I didn't notice whether Rod had any injuries or not but I did see that he had some blood on his shirt. Seeing this took me back a bit, and so I stepped back into the club. Mick and Rod went over to the bar, where Mick was given something to wipe his face with”.
So the 5 minutes I was outside the second time was when I was having the fight with Sewell. She describes me leaving with her speaking to Robert White near Lloyds Bank etc etc.
Why couldn’t the Police see that everything she says matches Robert White and others? It was impossible for me to have had the fight with Sewell then go after Gorman on the Market Place, with Sewell there chase Gorman to the Lattice Kill him and then get back to the club without anybody seeing me all in five minutes. Another line of enquiry the Plod missed was the bit about Hayley seeing Andy Griggs. She says this, “, whilst I walked in the direction of High Street. In one of the shop doorways, I think the Linen Shop, on the right hand side, I saw Andy GRIGGS sitting down in the doorway. Andy is the boyfriend of Donna PURPLE and he lives at Terrington, though I don’t know his address. He was complaining of a sore arm which he said he had hurt in a scuffle outside the Cellar Bar. He stated that someone had run down the stairs hitting everyone in his path and that this person had pushed a woman into him, which is how he had hurt his arm.” Andy Griggs was a friend of Tony Crown who witnesses say knocked Gorman down the stairs outside the club and just prior to me going out there.
Tony Gorman’s Family were tragically let down by the King’s Lynn Police that night. There were so many leads that they should have followed but chose not to. Shouldn’t someone be asking WHY?

Hayley Garrigan Statement

2008-02-09T09:39:00.001Z

NAME: HAYLEY MICHELLE GARRIGAN

AGE / DATE OF Birth: 25 170911965

OCCUPATION: PART TIME MEDICAL LABORATORY ASSISTANT

Who states: This statement consisting of 6 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.

DATED: 020391
H M GARRIGAN (SIGNED)

I am Hayley Michelle GARRIGAN and live at the address stated overleaf where I have lived for the last five years. I am married to Anthony GARRIGAN and we have been married for nearly four years, I also have a little boy. Jack, 3 years, and at the moment I am 5 months pregnant. On the evening of Friday 1st March, 1991, I had arranged to go out with some of my girlfriends. We had planned to meet in the Tudor Rose, Kings Lynn, at 8.30opm and from there to go to a couple of pubs and then to the Cellar Bar. My husband dropped me off outside the Tudor Rose at 8.30pm. He was driving our blue Ford Sierra saloon. I do not know the registration number of the car. When I went inside the Tudor Rose I met three of my friends Donna PURPLE, Mandy AMBSROSE and Anne HARDY. I used to go out with this group about once a fortnight, but I have gone less regularly since I became pregnant. The last time I went out with then all was before, Christmas. I got to know the girls when I used to work at Berol, where Donna and Anne worked and I have known them for 7 years. Mandy started working there later, after I had left but I get to know her through the other two, and I have known her for about 5 years. We had about three drinks in the Tudor Rose and left there at about9.45pm. We then walked to the Lattice House, and had another drink in there. We only stayed in the Lattice House for a short while and at about 10.30pm we then went to the Maydens Head. We all had another couple of drinks in the Maydens Head, and stayed there until sometime between 10.30pm and 11.00pm at which time we walked to the Cellar Bar. All four of us were still together as a group. We went down the outside staircase and into the club. Mick TEAL was on the door, as he works at the Cellar Bar as a bouncer. Also standing with Mick was a man who I knew as one of the Hammond brothers. I don't know whether it was Jay HAMMOND or Wayne HAMMDND, but he has got long fair or blonde hair and a moustache. .As I know Mick he let us all in without paying, When we got inside we all went to the bar where we all got a drink. The club seemed fairly crowded at this time and so we stood together in a group, though on occasions a couple of us would leave the other two whilst we went to speak to somebody we knew. We would always end up back together as a foursome standing together. I can remember no incidents of note within the club until about 12.45am when one of the televisions fell from its bracket on the wall and fell to the ground. At the time I was standing near to the disc jockeys rostrum, which is quite near to where the television was. I think Mick TEAL was also standing somewhere nearby. The next incident I remember was just before 1.00am as the place was about to close. Donna had already left the club, sometime before 12.30am and the other two had also left just before 1.00am. I needed to sit down and so I went to sit on a bench which is situated just behind the disc jockeys rostrum. As I walked to the bench there was a group of people walking away from it. The group consisted of probably a couple of lads and a girl, though I cannot be sure. I did not know any of the group. One person stayed on the bench in a slouched position. He said something like "Fucking Bitch" to the group as they were leaving. I saw Mick TEAL laugh and say something to the man who remained behind, though I don’t know what was said. I would describe this person as being male, white, with a blonde crew cut, and a receding hair line. He was wearing blue jeans and a multicolored rugby shirt. After Mick had spoken to the man, the man smiled at him and got up and walked away. I sat down and therefore had my back to the entrance, whilst Mick was standing in front of me talking to me. He was larking about with me and when I got £5.00 out for my taxi fare he picked it up and put it in his pocket. I have known Mick TEAL for about five to six years as he is a good friend of my husband. All of a sudden Mick shot off, and went to the Middle of the club. I turned round and saw the person I referred to earlier as HAMMOND standing with the person who had been sitting on the bench earlier with the multi coloured rugby shirt on. I did not see what had happened but I saw Mick TEAL take hold of this person by either his arms or his shoulders, and he took him towards the exit. I did not see exactly where he took him because there were other people there. Within a minute or so he returned to me (Mick that is), and picked up his drink, but no sooner had he done this when someone called him back. I saw Mick leave the club and walk out of the door. After about 5 minutes or so I walked over to the door, and checked that nothing was happening outside. As I looked outside I saw Mick and Rod MOORE one of the other bouncers, just coming down the stairs. I saw that Mick had a cut on his forehead and had a lot of blood on his face, and on the front of his shirt. I didn't notice whether Rod had any injuries or not but I did see that he had some blood on his shirt. Seeing this took me back a bit, and so I stepped back into the club. Mick and Rod went over to the bar, where Mick was given something to wipe his face with. I then went over to ask him for my £5 pounds which I think he had probably forgotten about. Mick told me that he would walk me over and get a taxi. I left the club with Mick followed by Rod MOORE and I think we were also joined by another bouncer Rory SANDISH. Just as we started to walk over the Tuesday Market Place he gave my money back. We walked diagonally from Page Stair Lane to the opposite corner near the entrance to High Street. I told Mick that as there had been some fighting I did not want to walk with him in case there was any more fighting and so he walked ahead of me, leaving me to walk to the taxi office on my own. When he reached the Lloyds Bank he stopped briefly to talk to a boy who was standing there and then he walked down the cobbled street which runs behind Marks and Spencer’s. He was followed a short way behind by Rod MOORE, whilst I walked in the direction of High Street. In one of the shop doorways, I think the Linen Shop, on the right hand side, I saw Andy GRIGGS sitting down in the doorway. Andy is the boyfriend of Donna PURPLE and he lives at Terrington, though I don’t know his address. He was complaining of a sore arm which he said he had hurt in a scuffle outside the Cellar Bar. He stated that someone had run down the stairs hitting everyone in his path and that this person had pushed a woman into him, which is how he had hurt his arm. He got up and walked with me to the “Chick King” in Norfolk Street, where I saw some of my cousins. I then walked to Crown Taxi’s and got a taxi home. Other than the people I have already mentioned the following people were also in the club, Gary HARRIS and his girlfriend (address unknown). Ricky (surname unknown). Chips (full name unknown). David EASY, Mandy OAKES (Chequer St). Julie LONG (Pot Row). Gail (surname unknown). There was also the regular staff there as well. Further to the above when Mick first spoke to the boy on the bench, although I didn’t hear what had been said, I got the impression that it was jokey and friendly and not aggressive. I do not know whether I actually told Mick the reason I did not want to walk with him but I remember telling him I wanted to walk on my own. Throughout the evening I had about 4 halves of lager tops and the rest of the time drank soft drinks. I was there for not at all drunk and my relocation of the events is very clear.

Statement completed at 2030 hours 2.3.91.
H M GARRIGAN; SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 020391

RE: Robert White's Statement

2008-02-07T18:36:00.000Z

Robert Whites statement does a couple of very important things. Let me make it clear though 1st that he’s got my surname wrong but it is safe to say when he talks about Mickey Tanner he is meaning me. Firstly what he does is show the relationship I had with Sewell and Gorman and my attitude to things like the TV getting damaged. The second thing he says which was important was he remembers me running up to him and asking about Sewell. He says this:
“I walked to the Maydens Head and then I walked towards the High Street, towards McDonalds. As we were walking the bouncer Mickey TANNER ran up to me and I said to him "What’s the matter” I saw that his shirt was covered in blood, he said to me "Where's your mate." By this time I had already seen Gary leave the Market Place down past the Tudor Rose. I did not see Tony again so I don't know whether he followed Gary. When Mickey TANNER asked me where they had gone I was just coming up to the Lloyds Bank and I didn't tell him where Gary had gone, but just pointed vaguely behind me. He called me "a lying cunt" and just ran past me, and then down the cobbled lane, which runs down past the side of the Lloyds Bank. Mickey TANNER was on his own but a few moments later the bouncer who I know as MOORE came running up and I just pointed where Mickey TANNER had run. MOORE ran after him,”

It was important because it establishes the way I left the club and it also says I was alone. I want to mention that during my interviews when the Police said I ran past the body with Rod Moore. I wasn’t aware that Rod had been following me. The 1st time I saw Rod Moore after I started running was in a Police car that pulled up along side me. So with this and other satements I will establish as fact that I did infact take the Red route as described in the previous maps. So when Colman and others say I ran past the body it was after meeting Robert White on the Market Place.

Robert White

2008-02-07T17:48:00.001Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: ROBERT JOHN WHITE
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 22 16101968
OCCUPATION: ROOFER
Who states: - This statement consisting of 10 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I-make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 020391 R J WHITE (SIGNED)

I am Robert John WHITE, and I live at the address stated overleaf where I have lived for approximately ten weeks. Before this I was lodging at 127 Columbia Way, Kings Lynn, where Greta was the landlady. I do not know Greta’s surname. I lived at that address for three to four months. Since I moved to Norfolk in 1982 I first of all lived with my parents until 1985, but since then I have lived at a number of addresses both in Kings Lynn and in London, but I did not stay at the addresses for longer than 6 months. Since I was seventeen years old I have known a man called Gary HILL, who lives at 24 George Street, Kings Lynn and we are close friends. In the summer of 1990 I got to know a man called Tony GOREMAN who worked with Gary HILL, and I met him socially through Gary. In November 1990 I started working with Tony GOREMAN and so we became close friends. Gary HILL used to work for G.W. KIER of 1 Willow Road, Heacham, which is where Tony also worked; when Gary HILL left the firm in November 1990 I took over his position, working with Tony. I also know a man called Gary SEWELL and I have known him since May, 1990. I returned from London in May, 1990, to Kings Lynn, and I started working with Gary SEWELL at Lyntool Engineering Company, Paxman Road, Hardwick Industrial Estate, Kings Lynn. Gary SEWELL lives at 29 Browning Place, Kings Lynn. As part of my social life I often go out with Tony GOREMAN and Gary SEWELL, on most Friday and Saturday nights. We always meet in the Wild Fowler Public House, Gayton Road, Kings Lynn, and after a couple of drinks we would go to the New Inn, Wootton Road, Kings Lynn, and after that we would go to Kings Lynn town centre. We would often end up in the Cellar Bar, Page Stair Lane, Kings Lynn. Over the last two months we have been to the Cellar Bar two or three times a month. We would normally arrive there about 11.00pm to 11.30pm. Through my visits there I know one of the bouncers as Mickey TANNER. He is about 6'0" tall, or slightly taller, with a pale complexion and short blonde hair. He is well built with a large chest. As I would go into the Cellar Bar he would nod to me and I would nod back to him, as we recognised each other by face, though I have never spoken to him. I understand that he knows Gary HILL quite well. Mickey TANNER lives in a caravan at the back of George Street, Kings Lynn, where he is doing up a house. This is opposite where Gary HILL lives. When I go out with Gary SEWELL and Tony GOREMAN and we have a few beers, they often get a bit loud, full of high spirits, not violent or aggressive. They often take the mickey out of me and out of each other for example. When we went to the Cellar Bar together, Gary SEWELL and Tony GOREMAN would often have words with Mickey TANNER if he was on the door. It would be a bit of friendly mickey taking out of each other, but there was nothing serious or aggressive in it. On the evening of Friday 1st March, 1991, I went to the Wild Fowler Public House at about 7.40pm. I was due to meet both Gary SEWELL and Tony GOREMAN in there at 8.00pm, but they both arrived just before. When I first got there I ordered a pint of Lowenbrow lager, for myself and when the other two arrived I got them both a pint of lager shandy. We stayed in the Wild Fowler until about 10.00pm, during which time we had about 4 pints of lager each. I rang for a taxi from Kens Taxi firm at about 9.50pm, and I used Tony’s name. The taxi arrived about 10 minutes later and took us to the Wootton New Inn, Wootton Road, Kings Lynn. When we got there we went into the Sport Bar, which is the one furthest from the road at the back of the pub. We were served by a lady who I know as Mrs. SPAIN and we only had one pint each whilst we were there, a pint of Holsten. We left the pub at about 10.30pm and were given a lift into town by two men with Geordie accents who drove a blue Austin Maestro, possibly D registration. I did not know these men, and I don't remember having even seen them in the New Inn. They first of all drove us to the rear of Gary SEWELL's house in Browning Place, as Gary had told the men he had to collect his inhaler. The men waited for us as he only took about three minutes and then they drove us to the Tuesday Market Place, Kings Lynn, where they dropped us off outside the Maydens Head, Public House. Once they had dropped us off I didn't see the two Geordie lads again that evening. All three of us then went into the Maydens Head where we all had another pint of lager, Holsten this time. One of the girls who works behind the bar, Kelly GALLAGHER is the sister of one of the people I live with and she also lives there. Her boyfriend John whose surname I don't know was standing at the bar. He lives somewhere in North Lynn but I don't know the address. We left the pub just as the bell was being rung for time, signifying that the pub was about to close. I think this was about 11.10pm. We all walked from the pub directly across the Tuesday Market Place, to the Cellar Bar, Page Stair Lane, Kings Lynn. When we reached the Cellar Bar we went down the steps and through the double doors into the pub. As we went through the doors I saw a man inside who I recognised, but whose name I don't know. He told us that we had to pay £1.00 to get in. We all paid our money and then walked through to the main bar. We all went straight to the bar and ordered a pint of lager each, but I don't know what sort of lager it was. Having got our drinks we all had a walk around to see who else was in there to nave a chat to. We were all together at first, but gradually we split up. The club was fairly packed at this time. The first person who I met and talked to was a man who I know as Chips. I don't know his full name, but he lives behind the flats where Gary SEWELL lives, in Browning Place. I then saw two other friends who I know Steven JACKSON (nickname Stid) and Paul HUNT. Stid lives at Terrington St. clement, but I don't know where Paul HUNT lives. I spoke to another person I knew in there called Terry MAHOFFER, but I don't know where he lives. I know his father lives at Tilney All Saints, just down from the school. Throughout the evening I was walking around the club, but I often met up with Gary SEWELL and Tony GOREMAN near the bench which is at the far end of the bar, in the-back left hand corner of the premises near the door to the toilets. This is right behind the Disc Jockeys rostrum. About 12.30am to 12.45am there was an incident involving a television set which is normally on a bracket attached to the wall to the right of the bench, above a heater. I do not know how the television set came to cone off the wall but I remember it being in place at one moment and then after I had had a walk around with Paul HUNT I returned to the bench and I saw the glass from the television screen on the floor, but I don't know where the television had gone. The bouncer who I know as Mickey TANNER was standing there when I returned. I remember him saying something like "I don’t care who did it" as if he wasn't worried about the damage I sat down and started talking to a girl called Sam. I don't know where she lives, or her surname, but she works on the Gaywood Pizza shop, in Wootton Road. Also present was a girl called Sue, whose surname I don't know but who I think lives in South Wootton and another girl I don't know. I can't remember whether Gary SEWELL and Tony GORMAN there at this time. I then remember Gary and Tony being there, and the fact that Gary was being a bit loud. One of the bouncers, who had short dark hair, came and had a word with Gary and told him to quieten down. All three of us decided it was time to leave. I got up and walked out with the girl called Sue and I think that Gary SEWELL followed on behind us. I don't know what happened to Tony GOREMAN at this time. I walked outside and went to the top of the stairs outside where I waited for the other two. Gary SEWELL kept coming up and then going back into the club looking for Tony. I was standing at the top of the stairs in doorway of the snooker club. I was aware that there were couples coming out of the club, walking up the stairs, when I saw that there was a bit of a scuffle taking place at the bottom of the stairs. I do not know who was involved in the scuffle but I assumed it, was bouncers because I could see white shirts. I then remember seeing Gary SEWELL being held against the wall of the top of the stairs by the bouncer Mickey TANNER. The bouncer had Gary held around the throat by I think one hand, but I do not know which hand. They were arguing and had their faces very close to each other. I then saw Mickey TANNER head butt Gary SEWELL in the face. I started to walk towards them, when I saw another of the bouncers running up the stairs. I would describe him as being in his mid thirties, with short cropped hair, who I think is called MOORE. He split Mickey TANNER up from Gary SEWELL. As Gary turned away I saw that he had a cut above his eye, and I saw that Mickey had a cut on his forehead, and that his shirt was covered in blood. Gary then walked past me and towards the Tuesday Market Place. I then become aware that there was another scuffle at the top of the stairs when a girl, either fell or was pushed down the stairs. I then saw the girl hobble back up the stairs, and stand again the wall at the top of the stairs. I then saw a man who I know as Carl SxxxxxxN standing near the top of the stairs, who said something like "It was the bald one down there," and at the same time was pointing down the stairs. I then remember seeing Tony GOREMAN come walking up the stairs, and Tony kept saying "I'm sorry, I'm sorry." Another woman nearby who I don't know said to Tony something like "You pushed her down the stairs," or "You made her fall." Again Tony said "I'm sorry." He repeated this about three times. I then saw that Sue was walking away, and so I said to Tony "See you," and then walked away to catch up with Sue. I walked straight across the Market Place with Sue and Sam and another girl who I didn't know. I walked to the Maydens Head and then I walked towards the High Street, towards McDonalds. As we were walking the bouncer Mickey TANNER ran up to me and I said to him "What’s the matter” I saw that his shirt was covered in blood, he said to me "Where's your mate." By this time I had already seen Gary leave the Market Place down past the Tudor Rose. I did not see Tony again so I don't know whether he followed Gary. When Mickey TANNER asked me where they had gone I was just coming up to the Lloyds Bank and I didn't tell him where Gary had gone, but just pointed vaguely behind me. He called me "a lying cunt" and just ran past me, and then down the cobbled lane, which runs down past the side of the Lloyds Bank. Mickey TANNER was on his own but a few moments later the bouncer who I know as MOORE came running up and I just pointed where Mickey TANNER had run. MOORE ran after him, I then stopped outside the phone box whilst the girls used the telephone. Sam then waited outside the phone box for her boyfriend whilst I carried on walking into the High Street with Sue and the other girl. We then turned left into Norfolk Street and walked towards the road. As we were walking along the part of Norfolk Street which is an actual road a Cavalier Car (I don't know the colour) pulled up. I saw that Sam was in the passenger seat and I therefore assumed that the driver was her boyfriend Mark COTTON although I had never seen him before. Sue and the other girl then went over to the car and after having a brief word they returned. I do not know whether they spoke to either the passenger or the driver or both. At this time we were down near Chicago’s on the opposite side of the road near an alleyway. The car had originally come from the direction of the Tuesday Market Place, and so was facing Railway Road. As the two girls were walking away from the car, and back towards me, the car pulled away, and then pulled across the road towards the side of the road where I was standing. The car stopped and the driver sat and stared at me. He then got out of the car and walked up to me. He said something to me, though I can't remember what he said, or what it was about, and then he hit me with a clenched fist in the right hand side of my mouth. I do not know which hand he hit me with, but as a result of this assault on me I now have a fat lip, and a cut on the inside of my lip. He then got back into the car and drove off, and I saw that Sue and the other girl were standing waiting for me in the nearby alleyway. I had intended to share a cab home with Sue, but the other girl said that Sue could stay with her in her flat in Norfolk Street, and so I just walked home on my own. As I walked away, just after being hit I realised that Terry MAHOFFER was also walking down Norfolk Street, behind me. He was with a group of two to three other people who I didn't know. He called me by my name and then laughed as he said something like "This is a good night, you've just been hit and your mates been beaten up and is out cold near the Lattice House." I think he said something about a rugby shirt but I can't really remember. It didn't really sink in and so I just carried on walking home. I would describe the clothes Gary SEWELL "Was wearing as follows:- Brown kicker boots, blue jeans and a red and grey rugby shirt, whilst Tony GOREMAN was wearing blue jeans, brown suede shoes and an England Rugby shirt with a rose on the left side of the chest. It is red and white or red, white and blue. Over the course of the evening I had had seven pints of lager and one vodka, whilst the other two had had eight pints each. Although I was merry I wouldn't describe myself as having been drunk and my recollection of the events is reasonably clear.
Statement completed at 1515 hrs 2.3.91.
R J WHITE SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN
PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 020391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE: R J WHITE
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: DC 448

RE: Jason Colman

2008-02-07T07:29:00.001Z

So here we have at last on the face of it what would appear to be some very damning evidence. Don’t start jumping up and down because this statement only goes to prove the Police had jumped in both feet 1st, before fully gathering all the evidence. Let’s look at it from a Police perspective though first. What have we got?
!. I’m arrested after running past the deceased covered in blood.
2. The Bar staff don’t have anything nice to say about me. Including I appeared drunk and on drugs
3. I’ve admitted head butting Gary Sewell, Gorman’s friend.
4. I’m already well known to the Police.

I would be the 1st to say I can understand the Police having their suspicions. Who wouldn’t? But you see what the Old Bill failed to do was gather all the evidence before finally making their minds up. Jason Colman’s statement proves that without doubt and I’ll tell you why. Let’s go back to the map that I used earlier on. If Jason Colman had been right I would have had to leave the club and follow the blue route assault Gorman and then either:
!. Get back to the club via one of the Green routes or
2. Run off then come back and run past the body, when I was seen by the Police and arrested.
Now the Police must have been sure it was the 2nd . That’s why Colman’s statement stands out as complete and utter lies. Firstly there were lots of statements that describe the incident with Sewell outside the club. There was not one single statement that said I left the area they all say I went back inside, most of them say I was bleeding. So when the Bar staff say I returned to the bar had a drink wiped my head etc, that was after having the fight with Sewell. Secondly there was never a single statement taken from the 100+ witnesses that saw me returning to the club via one of the Green routes. You will soon see that the only time I left the club was via the Red route. So why did Jason Colman say he saw me. I’ll get to that soon but 1st I’ll post the statements that prove I did in fact take the Red route. One from the other friend of Sewell and Gorman, Robert White.

Jason Colman

2008-02-06T16:05:00.002Z

NORFOLK POLICE HEADQUARTERS STATION
NAME: JASON SIMON COLMAN
ADDRESS:
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 20 031111970
OCCUPATION: TECHNICIAN
Who states: This statement consisting of 3 pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge; and belief and I make it knowing that if it is tendered in evidence I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
DATED: 030391
J S COLMAN (SIGNED)
I am Jason Simon COLMAN and I live at the address overleaf.
On Friday, 1st March 1991 I went out for the evening with four friends Mark BANHAM, Colin LORD, Clifford ELLISS and Terry, I don't knew his surname, he lives in Tilney or Terrington and works at Saddlebow sugar factory with Mark. We went out at 9 pm and went around various pubs in town. I had quite a bit to drink during the evening, drinking a number of pints of lager. I was merry towards the end of the night. I was wearing jeans, white training shoes, a mustard coloured T shirt and a woolen button up cardigan with vertical slim black and grey stripes. It was mainly grey with black stripes. Mark was wearing; jeans and a white shirt, a light blue ski type jacket and brown shoes. Clifford was wearing jeans I think black training shoes and a white shirt. Terry was wearing jeans, I can't remember what else. Colin was wearing jeans, a white shirt and a brown suit jacket with a light pin stripe. We went to the Cellar Bar arriving just before 11 pm. The bar was busy at the time and remained so during the evening. Inside we met up with Gary DAW, his girlfriend Shelley who is Clifford's sister, Caroline who works in the Pizza Gallery and her friend I don't know. Gary was wearing reasonably smart shirt and trousers, I can't remember what colours. We spent the evening in the area near the bar, between the bar the square pillar and the back wall. At about 12.45 am. I was aware of a scuffle which originated from the Disco area. I didn't see who was involved or what actually happened. I saw a bouncer with short blond hair, flat top type who I believe was Micky TEAL taking someone out of the bar from the area of the scuffle. I didn't see who was taken out. Caroline's friend had left prior to this. At closing time when the lights came on I left my drink and left the bar with Mark, Colin, Terry, Clifford and Caroline. I think Gary and Shelley left just before us. As we went upstairs into the street a crowd of people were just standing around. I noticed a man leaning against the wall at the top of the stairs. He was wearing a distinctive squared rugby shirt in red, green and white coloured squares. He had blond hair, in his late 20's, biggish build, about 5'11" tall. We walked through the crowd into the Tuesday Market place. I was following the friends I'd left with. I heard a scuffle and shouting behind me but couldn't see what was happening as the crowd obstructed my view. We all walked to Barclays Bank where Caroline got some money. We then walked diagonally across the market place into St. Nicholas Street. As we were about half way along, level with the car park on our right, I heard and then saw the man in the distinct! Rugby shirt run past us from behind. He was being chased by three men. I recognized the leading two as a doorman at the Cellar Bar and Carl SXXXXXX. They were followed by Micky TEAL. The doorman was in the entrance to the Cellar Bar when we arrived this evening. He was in his late 20's or early 30's, tall about 5'11", broad build with blond hair, straight which was longer at the back just over his collar with a slightly flicked over fringe. He was wearing a white shirt and I think trousers of a dark colour. Micky was dressed similar. Carl SXXXXXX was wearing a white or light blue shirt. I can't remember his trousers or shoes. As the man reached the solicitors building at the end of the car park he was stopped by one or two of them but immediately broke free. We stopped mid way along the car park. The man ran off again and turned right in the road towards Norfolk Street. I could see diagonally across the car park and saw this same man was stopped again outside the Lattice House pub on the opposite pavement. I couldn't see who stopped him but the man went down to the ground but all three joined in kicking him on the ground. I couldn't see where the kicks were landing. It appeared they continually kicked him for a minute or more. All three then ran off towards Norfolk Street and out of my view. Clifford then left us. The remainder of us walked up to the man. He was lying on his back in the gutter on the opposite side to the Lattice House with his right arm on the pavement. His head towards Norfolk Street. His face was a mess, blood was pumping out but I couldn't see where from. He sounded as if he was gargling. I ran up to Glebe taxis further down the road and told the man behind the desk to get an ambulance as someone had had a kicking. I then went back to the man followed by I think another man from Glebe Taxis. Me and Mark put the injured man in the recovery position. We waited for a while, it seemed a long while at the time, but was probably only minutes until a police car pulled up with two policemen. One got out with a torch. At this point Micky TEAL came back from the direction of Norfolk Street followed by the other blonde doorman. Micky said something like, we've had him. We want the other cunt." They jogged straight past and the police car with the driver went off after them. We all then left. I went home by taxi with Mark, Colin, Terry and Caroline went in a separate taxi. We went with Crown Cars. I just know Micky TEAL by name and sight. I have done so for couple of years as he is a bouncer around town. I've known of Carl SXXXXXX for about three and a half years from friends. He's not a man I speak to but see him occasionally in the Cellar Bar and he was in Lynn News and Advertiser and other papers about a year ago showing off his muscles. I believe this was to do with a show at LA'S. I have seen the other doorman on other occasions at the Cellar Bar. I think he may also have been at the Globe Hotel as a doorman. There is no doubt in my mind that these men who assaulted this man were Carl SXXXXXX, Micky TEAL and the other blonde doorman. Others persons I saw in the Cellar Bar during the evening were Steven BURKE the D.J., Raymond EDGELEY who lives in Front Way and Simon FOX who lives in Mariners Way. I would describe Micky TEAL as in his late 20's, about 5'11" to 6' tall, broad built with blonde hair with a flattish top and short at the sides and back. Carl SXXXXXX is about 25 years old, about 5'7" tall possibly smaller, muscular build and broad, he has blonde brown short spikey hair with gel on. He sometimes wears glasses but didn't have them on this night. As Micky TEAL ran past me in St. Nicholas Street I noticed he had blood on the chest of his shirt. I had a clear and unobstructed view across the car park. Cars were parked near me one; on the far side but not in the middle. Street lighting was on in St. Nicholas Street and outside The Lattice House which lit up all the events and people I've described.
J S COLMAN SIGNED
STATEMENT TAKEN
PLACE:
TIME: DATE: 030391
WITNESS TO SIGNATURE:
OFFICERS SIGNATURE: DC586 HAWKINS

The Plod and my Blog

2008-02-06T11:52:00.000Z

Let me just state the purpose of this Blog isn't to bash the Poice Force. I know it may seem that way sometimes but that isn't intentional. When my venom spews out understand it's a reaction to the hopeless way in which this investigation was carried out. The purpose is to show the evidence the Police had at the time. Remember what I'm producing is copies of statements and interviews the Police had taken at the time. So understand I'm going to be pissed off when I see they choose to ignore thing's that I feel are relevant. For example a witness who claims one of the attackers had a blue and white hooped rugby shirt on, Sewell saying they all had black or brown hair, another witness saying they wasn't wearing anything light coloured as it would of stood out. Of course I'm going to be pissed. Wouldn't you be?
Later on I will give you 2 examples of how I don't tar all the Police with the same brush. The 2 Officers concerned won't even realize the respect I have for them. I'll get to that later so keep reading.

RE:Gary Sewell 2nd Interview

2008-02-06T10:59:00.001Z

I want to go over the Gary Sewell interview but before I do let me 1st talk about 1 of the Officers conducting it, Detective Sergeant peter newton. I realize that should be capital p, capital n. I have no respect for the man and can’t bring myself to show any. If this investigation failed it was for one reason and one reason alone, DS peter newton. You see you could say we went way back. I had had numerous run ins with mr newton and he always came off second best. How best to describe him without offending all the short fat bastards in the world. peter newton was a copper from the old school, a short overweight chain smoking plod who would never have advanced to the dizzy heights of Detective Sergeant in today’s modern Police Force. Hardly an athlete he would probably break into a sweat at the mere mention of the word “jog”. He probably thought all his Christmases had come at once when he heard my name mentioned along with the Murder. I’m not going to sit here and make out I know everything but I can imagine mr newton taking the call and immediately reaching for some blinkers and cotton wool. He wasn’t going to let ANYBODY convince him it wasn’t me. I would be surprised if newton didn’t have money on it being me. He would definitely be one of the 1st to be shouting it from the rooftops. All I’d like to say to him now is “hey pete you’ve still got some egg on ya chin”.
Back to the interview with Sewell. If DS newton was doing his job properly how did he miss the fact that Sewell said when asked by him about the colour of the attacker’s hair
Q.
Do you know the colour of their hair?
R:
I'd say that was black, dark brown.
Q
Dark hair.
R:
Yeah.
Q.
All three? I mean were they neat haircuts? You know people who'd been to Barbers like you, got fairly neat haircuts or not?
R.
Yeah.

For those that don’t know me my hair is blond. He asked about different names who might have been the attackers but never mine, why was that peter?
Picture this; you’ve got a man who’s the friend of the dead man. He claims the attackers came up and spoke to him before killing his mate. In custody you’ve got someone who is the main suspect who your witness knows and has spoke about all the way through the interview. How many Police Forces up and down the country wouldn’t have just once asked “was Micky Teal one of those that came up to you”? NEVER in any of his interviews and I know I’ve mentioned it in my previous Blogs Never was he asked that one simple question. WHY the fuck not peter? So all you fucking idiots that for years have thought I did it and got away with it. Start taking note this investigation was flawed from the start and it was flawed quite simply because of the ineptitude of the prats conducting the inquiries. If peter newton had taken his blinkers off and taken the cotton wool out that he had stuffed in his fucking ears then maybe someone would be serving time for the Murder of Anthony Gorman. If you don’t like what I’m saying peter go ahead and fucking sue me I don’t care!!
If there’s anything I’m qualified on it’s the Tony Gorman Murder, I could get a degree in it. I’ve studied it that much. Anyway back to Sewell, he mentions he thought one of them was eating something chips or a kebab in a white wrapper. In any other Murder investigation this may be a new line of inquiry a new lead to follow but in this one it’s discarded probably like the wrapper itself. Why? Cos it doesn’t fit, it doesn’t implicate me of course. newton and frost might as well of being sitting there with i Pods on cos they weren’t listening to a fucking word Sewell said. He even tried to throw in the possibility that whoever had knocked Gorman down the stairs outside the club may be involved but that was skirted over. Sewell’s hands are mentioned quite a lot and it was months later when I saw pictures of them that I could fully understand why. If he did those punching walls then he obviously has no nerve endings in his hands. They were swollen beyond believe they looked as though someone had drove over them with a bus. They weren’t the same as when I had taken the piss out of Sewell by squeezing them. He has an injury to his head he explains away as messing about
Q.
How did you get that other cut? I know you've obviously got the one with stitches in, what about the other side of your head? Where did you get that from?
R:
What?
Q:
The mark....
Q:
It's not a cut, it's just a mark. You've got a mark over your left eye as well on the forehead. A bit hi... a bit mo.... further out towards the temple. There.
Q:
There that's it.
R.
Yeah.
Q:
Yeah it goes across here look.
Q:
That's it, that's it.
Q.
Yeah.
R.
Probably done it messing about, I don't know, probably done it, I don't know how I done it.
24.56:
Q.
Cause didn't you say to Micky when you was telling him about this problem you'd had in the toilet, did you say, have I got a black eye?"
R.
Yeah I said to him, have I, have I got a black eye?"
Q;
Had you been hit in the eye?
R.
No I was pushed up against a wall.
Q:
Sorry?
R.
When I got pushed up against a wall. Well I haven't got a black eye.
Q:
No.
R.
No.
Q:
Now do you know anything more about this lad who pushed you up against the wall?
R:
No,
Q.
Did you say something back to him I mean if you did I mean...
R:
I, I… I probably just said to him, "Alright then," you know, "Leave it out;" or "That ain't got nothing to do with you this is my mate Tony;" or something like that.
Q:
But Tony was talking to this lad.
R.
Who was talking to......
Q.
And they were, they were okay, there was no problem with them?
R.
No and Tony just got a bit of the hump with me because I said, -"Come on Ton, let's go downstairs now." And he said, "Look Gary;" he said, "This bloke was friendly with my brother who died;" he said, "I just thought I'd talk to him about my brother."
Q:
So he remained there talking did he?
R.
Yeah.
Q:
So wh... what point did you then go and hit the wall?
R.
Well that bloke pushed me up by the toilets and you know what I mean I was angry so I just hit the wall by the stairs....

Another opportunity lost. If you have a mark over your eye you don’t know about so you say probably done it messing about. If he had said I did it I would understand that. But messing about I don’t think so cos he then tries to blame this mystery bloke in the toilets, who incidentally is never discovered. Another thing I’ll just throw in, Robert White the other friend of Sewell and Gorman is also assaulted later that night in Norfolk St. Are any of these assaults linked by the Police or even investigated? Don’t be bloody stupid. Three men all out together in the Cellar Bar all assaulted that night one dying. Is there a link? We’ll never know because yet again it wasn’t investigated.
Let me give you another example of how I know Sewell was lying. He’s asked did I say anything to him outside the Club just prior to me head butting him.
Did he say something to you? Did you say anything at all?
R:
Let me have that bastard or something.
Q:
Or would it not have been something like, "Don't tell me how to do my job."?
R:
Could have been something like that, yeah.
Q.
Well is that, was that said or don't you remember?
R.
Well yeah, probably words to some effect and then I, I turned round and said to him about why, why do you want to sort of hit Tony, he just doing his job or something like that. You, you are right there. You are right.

So he’s gone from me saying “Let me have that bastard or something “to “Don’t tell me how to do my job." Completely different things. Gary Sewell was hiding something that night and the Police FAILED to find out what it was.
Again Sewell was asked about Karl Sxxxxxxn:
Q.
Well you obviously know Carl?
R.
Yeah Carl.
Q.
Carl SxxxxxxN was down there.
R:
Yeah.
Q:
Was he one of the three?
R:
No.
Q.
Are you absolutely certain? Are you absolutely certain?
Q.
Yeah that weren’t Carl.
Q.
Look, look definite. I mean look if, if you don't trying to protect people....
R:
I'm not trying to protect no-one

So how was poor old Karl ever charged? Read on
If Sewell comes across to you as a man who has got nothing to hide than you’re as stupid as the idiots investigating this Murder.