Clifford Ellis 2nd Statement

This is a second statement made by Clifford Ellis to Karl's solicitor. He made it after hearing we had all been charged with the Murder. To come forward and contradict what was being published in the Press was a very brave thing to do. Not something you would do lightly. Did it make any differance at the time? Don't be silly even with this evidence the prosecution continued and Karl and I remained in Prison.

STATEMENT OF WITNESS CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 1967, S9, MCA 1980, S102
MC Rules 1981 r70
Statement of: CLIFFORD MICHAEL ELLIS.
Address:
Occupation: Ground Worker
Age: 22
This statement (consisting of 5 pages signed by me) is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
Dated...... Signed..... Witnessed by
I make this statement additional to the statement which I made to the Police on the 3rd March 1991. Subsequent to that statement I attended an Identification Parade. I could not effectively take part in the first Parade as I had sat in a room with persons who were on that Parade. I did not know that this was wrong and I only realised it was when one of those men who was on the Parade stated so and then the Parade had to stop. However I recognised Carl Sxxxxxxxn on that Parade who I know and had I been asked to go on I would have not picked him out but indeed would have been able to categorically state that he was not involved. I then went to two other Identification Parades for Moore and Michael Teal and again I did not pick either of them out. I would like to add to that first statement the following. When I went into the Club I stood about mid-way along at the bar. Then I moved to the left and stood talking to Sue Fox in the position that I have indicated on the plan. At the end of the evening I just had a dance with Sue. I was very interested in her. I just saw someone in the crowd being escorted out. I had not seen the video smashed. The Club was very noisy. Indeed I had not seen any trouble at all. I know who Carl Somerton is but I cannot remember if I saw him in the Club, it was very crowded. I know Mick Teal, the bouncer, because I have played five-a-side football against him. I did not know his second name until the Police told me it, I just knew him as Mick. I know Carl through his younger brother Wayne and I have spoken to Wayne on lots of occasions. I have not actually ever spoken to Carl Sxxxxxxn but I know him by sight and name. I cannot say for definite if Mick Teal was working that night in the Club, there are usually two bouncers on. I have never met or seen before the Incident which I will come to a man called Gorman. Indeed the only reason I know that the deceased is named Gorman is because the Police told me. Through the crowd I had seen this man being escorted out when I was dancing with Sue. I had noticed him previously standing by the video which I understand got broken. I remember that he was wearing a rugby shirt which had white squares in it. I cannot be too sure about the other colours, but there was possibly some orange or light brown in the pattern. After this man had gone out I continued dancing with Sue and I did not hear any shouting coming from outside, but it was still very loud. When we left as I was going up the stairs I just remember that this man with the Rugby shirt on was leaning against the wall. I do not recall any conversation or aggro coming from him. Outside I think we walked straight off, but I was fairly pissed by now. I did not see any incident outside. I saw the Police in interview the following night. By then it was all over the news as to the name of the man who had died. That is why I have said Gorman was being chased. I assume it was him being chased, but I cannot be sure that the man who I saw being chased was the same man that I had seen on the stairs. He ran by me in a split second. I have told the Police that those chasing him I would be able to recognise. Indeed if they had been persons that I knew I would have been immediately able to tell the Police who they were, I got that good of view. For that reason I do not think that any of them was Micky Teal. I do not think that any of them was Carl Somerton. I did get a look at their faces, particularly' from the side. If one of them had been Carl Sxxxxxxn I think I would have recognised him. I do not know who they were. The man Gorman did not run across the gravel car park, he went round the back of the second Ward Gethin Office on the corner by the Tuesday Market Place and then round into Chapel Street towards the Council Offices and the men chasing him were following. There were three of them. I got a better look at the third man because he was coming up behind the first two. As to his hair colour it is about like mine, which would make it light brown, but I am not totally sure, it could have been black. I can remember that on the right hand side of the street on the Tudor Rose side I had noticed as we walked along another man walking parallel to us. I do not think this could have been one of the men involved because I am quite sure that the third of the men had already run passed me when my attention was drawn to this other person. This third one could have been wearing a rugby shirt. This man was not Carl Sxxxxxxn. None of them in fact stick in my mind as people I noticed at the Club and indeed none of the three was familiar to me. As I have already stated in my earlier statement my friends then went across to the body but I went on across the street into Austin Street. My impression is that this third man involved in the attack was bordering on being fat.
Signed: CLIFFORD MICHAEL ELLIS